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An MD80 crew, while on a runway 4R catiii a approach to bos and after being cleared to land, were informed there was a 140 foot ship in the bay.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 540327 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200203 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bos.airport |
| State Reference | MA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Fog |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bos.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 4r |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 540327 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 55 flight time total : 11700 flight time type : 5500 |
| ASRS Report | 540609 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Performed CAT III a ILS at bos. At 800 ft and after we were cleared to land the tower advised there was a 140 ft ship in the bay, after landing and on closer look at the approach plate there is a small notation that the approach (CAT ii/III) is not authorized with tall ships in the bay. There was no mention on the ATIS of the ship and no mention in the note of what constitutes a 'tall' ship and everyone going into bos for the 2 + hours we were there and even beyond our departure were doing this approach. I write this only because if there is a reason for the notation on the approach and there are tall ships in the bay perhaps it should be noted on the ATIS and not on short final. There was absolutely no problem with the approach and landing and I still have no idea what constitutes a 'tall' ship for this approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 CREW, WHILE ON A RWY 4R CATIII A APCH TO BOS AND AFTER BEING CLRED TO LAND, WERE INFORMED THERE WAS A 140 FOOT SHIP IN THE BAY.
Narrative: PERFORMED CAT III A ILS AT BOS. AT 800 FT AND AFTER WE WERE CLRED TO LAND THE TWR ADVISED THERE WAS A 140 FT SHIP IN THE BAY, AFTER LNDG AND ON CLOSER LOOK AT THE APCH PLATE THERE IS A SMALL NOTATION THAT THE APCH (CAT II/III) IS NOT AUTHORIZED WITH TALL SHIPS IN THE BAY. THERE WAS NO MENTION ON THE ATIS OF THE SHIP AND NO MENTION IN THE NOTE OF WHAT CONSTITUTES A 'TALL' SHIP AND EVERYONE GOING INTO BOS FOR THE 2 + HRS WE WERE THERE AND EVEN BEYOND OUR DEP WERE DOING THIS APCH. I WRITE THIS ONLY BECAUSE IF THERE IS A REASON FOR THE NOTATION ON THE APCH AND THERE ARE TALL SHIPS IN THE BAY PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE NOTED ON THE ATIS AND NOT ON SHORT FINAL. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO PROB WITH THE APCH AND LNDG AND I STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT CONSTITUTES A 'TALL' SHIP FOR THIS APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.