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B757 flight crew increased climb to avoid a DHC8 at their altitude and 1500 ft to one side during departure climb. TCASII RA had instructed climb and the departure controller issued an advisory.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 542166 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200203 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon tower : dpa.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 21700 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 542166 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
Shortly after takeoff on runway 27L at phl, we received an RA. Aircraft on left was a dash 8, about 1/4 mi and about same altitude. I believe it was aircraft that had taken off ahead of us. We followed the TCASII climb command. Controller advised us of traffic on left, after we had received TCASII commands. It didn't appear dash 8 was talking to our departure controller. Controller didn't appear very concerned about our lack of separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLC INCREASED CLB TO AVOID A DHC8 AT THEIR ALT AND 1500 FT TO ONE SIDE DURING DEP CLB. TCASII RA HAD INSTRUCTED CLB AND THE DEP CTLR ISSUED AN ADVISORY.
Narrative: SHORTLY AFTER TKOF ON RWY 27L AT PHL, WE RECEIVED AN RA. ACFT ON L WAS A DASH 8, ABOUT 1/4 MI AND ABOUT SAME ALT. I BELIEVE IT WAS ACFT THAT HAD TAKEN OFF AHEAD OF US. WE FOLLOWED THE TCASII CLB COMMAND. CTLR ADVISED US OF TFC ON L, AFTER WE HAD RECEIVED TCASII COMMANDS. IT DIDN'T APPEAR DASH 8 WAS TALKING TO OUR DEP CTLR. CTLR DIDN'T APPEAR VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR LACK OF SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.