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An mdt crew, departing rsw, having missed an amended leveloff clearance, were queried by ATC as to their intentions.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 542177 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200203 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rsw.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : rsw.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 542177 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 2685 flight time total : 8900 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 541767 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to original clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Climbing out of rsw through 10000 ft with a clearance to climb to 16000 ft on a heading of 310 degrees, we received a call from ft myers approach. The first few words were unreadable, followed by 'ZMA is busy.' we did not acknowledge the call with a 'roger' or anything else because it did not sound like a clearance at all. A few seconds later, climbing 3200 FPM, we received a call from ATC saying 'what are you doing?' I said 'climbing through 12000 ft for 16000 ft heading 310 degrees.' ATC said that we were only cleared to 10000 ft and to descend back to 10000 ft. We immediately descended to 10000 ft. There was no conflict with any other airplanes. I believe what caused the problem was that the ATC controller did not use standard phraseology and did not get a readback from us, if indeed ATC told us stop at 10000 ft. As far as we know we did not receive a clearance to stop climb at 10000 ft. If ATC told us to stop climb at 10000 ft, ATC should not expect us to be able to not go over 10000 ft when ATC told us at 10000 ft and we were climbing at 3200 FPM.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MDT CREW, DEPARTING RSW, HAVING MISSED AN AMENDED LEVELOFF CLRNC, WERE QUERIED BY ATC AS TO THEIR INTENTIONS.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF RSW THROUGH 10000 FT WITH A CLRNC TO CLB TO 16000 FT ON A HDG OF 310 DEGS, WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM FT MYERS APCH. THE FIRST FEW WORDS WERE UNREADABLE, FOLLOWED BY 'ZMA IS BUSY.' WE DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE CALL WITH A 'ROGER' OR ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT DID NOT SOUND LIKE A CLRNC AT ALL. A FEW SECONDS LATER, CLBING 3200 FPM, WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM ATC SAYING 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING?' I SAID 'CLBING THROUGH 12000 FT FOR 16000 FT HDG 310 DEGS.' ATC SAID THAT WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO 10000 FT AND TO DSND BACK TO 10000 FT. WE IMMEDIATELY DSNDED TO 10000 FT. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH ANY OTHER AIRPLANES. I BELIEVE WHAT CAUSED THE PROB WAS THAT THE ATC CTLR DID NOT USE STANDARD PHRASEOLOGY AND DID NOT GET A READBACK FROM US, IF INDEED ATC TOLD US STOP AT 10000 FT. AS FAR AS WE KNOW WE DID NOT RECEIVE A CLRNC TO STOP CLB AT 10000 FT. IF ATC TOLD US TO STOP CLB AT 10000 FT, ATC SHOULD NOT EXPECT US TO BE ABLE TO NOT GO OVER 10000 FT WHEN ATC TOLD US AT 10000 FT AND WE WERE CLBING AT 3200 FPM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.