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Attributes | |
ACN | 542884 |
Time | |
Date | 200203 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rue.airport |
State Reference | AR |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
ASRS Report | 542884 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : 2 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 350 vertical : 250 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying a multiple leg training mission. During the leg from airport X to airport Y, I was flying at 2500 ft MSL to practice the NDB approach at airport Y. About 6-8 NM southeast of airport Y, we observed another aircraft (high wing, sel) turning away from us. I would estimate the distance as 200-300 ft below us and 300-400 ft to the side. Prior to the other aircraft turning, neither of us saw the other aircraft. We continued to airport Y and accomplished an NDB holding pattern and approach for training and currency. The WX was VFR at the time. After landing at airport Y, I discovered that I had not changed the radio to airport Y unicom. As a result, I did not hear any traffic calls from airport Y nor did any traffic hear me give the CTAF call inbound to airport Y. Obviously, I erred by not having the correct frequency in the radio. While on the ground at airport Y, after I had discovered the error and corrected it, the unicom operator asked if my radio was working. I acknowledged that it worked a lot better when I had it on the correct frequency. Then another person came on the radio and asked if I had seen them. Thinking it was the aircraft that was southeast of airport Y, I said 'yes, just as you turned away from us.' the other crew turned in an near midair collision report. The error I feel we made was to be on the wrong frequency inbound to airport Y. Discussed the incident with the local FSDO. He wanted to emphasize the importance of using the correct frequency. I agree with him. It is something I constantly emphasize on training missions. I will certainly be more aware of my actions in this area in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 PLT, ON APCH TO KRUE, A NON TWRED ARPT, HAD AN NMAC WITH ANOTHER ACFT.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING A MULTIPLE LEG TRAINING MISSION. DURING THE LEG FROM ARPT X TO ARPT Y, I WAS FLYING AT 2500 FT MSL TO PRACTICE THE NDB APCH AT ARPT Y. ABOUT 6-8 NM SE OF ARPT Y, WE OBSERVED ANOTHER ACFT (HIGH WING, SEL) TURNING AWAY FROM US. I WOULD ESTIMATE THE DISTANCE AS 200-300 FT BELOW US AND 300-400 FT TO THE SIDE. PRIOR TO THE OTHER ACFT TURNING, NEITHER OF US SAW THE OTHER ACFT. WE CONTINUED TO ARPT Y AND ACCOMPLISHED AN NDB HOLDING PATTERN AND APCH FOR TRAINING AND CURRENCY. THE WX WAS VFR AT THE TIME. AFTER LNDG AT ARPT Y, I DISCOVERED THAT I HAD NOT CHANGED THE RADIO TO ARPT Y UNICOM. AS A RESULT, I DID NOT HEAR ANY TFC CALLS FROM ARPT Y NOR DID ANY TFC HEAR ME GIVE THE CTAF CALL INBOUND TO ARPT Y. OBVIOUSLY, I ERRED BY NOT HAVING THE CORRECT FREQ IN THE RADIO. WHILE ON THE GND AT ARPT Y, AFTER I HAD DISCOVERED THE ERROR AND CORRECTED IT, THE UNICOM OPERATOR ASKED IF MY RADIO WAS WORKING. I ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT WORKED A LOT BETTER WHEN I HAD IT ON THE CORRECT FREQ. THEN ANOTHER PERSON CAME ON THE RADIO AND ASKED IF I HAD SEEN THEM. THINKING IT WAS THE ACFT THAT WAS SE OF ARPT Y, I SAID 'YES, JUST AS YOU TURNED AWAY FROM US.' THE OTHER CREW TURNED IN AN NMAC RPT. THE ERROR I FEEL WE MADE WAS TO BE ON THE WRONG FREQ INBOUND TO ARPT Y. DISCUSSED THE INCIDENT WITH THE LCL FSDO. HE WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF USING THE CORRECT FREQ. I AGREE WITH HIM. IT IS SOMETHING I CONSTANTLY EMPHASIZE ON TRAINING MISSIONS. I WILL CERTAINLY BE MORE AWARE OF MY ACTIONS IN THIS AREA IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.