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Attributes | |
ACN | 544444 |
Time | |
Date | 200204 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : quail |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 16200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence other |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL600 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 544444 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : turbulence inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : regained aircraft control other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were inbound on the quail 3 arrival to apa. We had been cleared to cross quail at 16000 ft MSL and 250 KTS. After leveling at 16000 ft MSL, crew experienced moderate to severe chop and mountain wave activity. The autoplt was on turbulence mode to dampen the correction for comfort. While climbing through 16200 ft MSL, crew realized that the WX conditions exceeded the autoplt limitations and began correction inputs. Climbing through 16500 ft MSL, I realized that my senior co-captain's inputs would not resolve the problem and selected 'off' of the autoplt. I then ordered he gain control of the aircraft at 16700 ft MSL. (I would have taken control at this point.) he obtained control and immediately started a descent to 16000 ft MSL. I then explained to denver our situation. Stratus and tiny cumulus clouds were en route. No signs of ventricular clouds. SIGMET 'V2' for occasional severe turbulence below FL220, standing up- and downdrafts vicinity mountains was issued, so we were prewarned. We were flying co-capts on our first trip together. Not knowing each other's experience and I being the junior captain, made this a touchy issue. I would have taken control at 16300 ft ms. With any of my first officer's. I assume this captain's experience was low. CRM issues exist with 2 capts, as you can clearly see. The only way to correct this problem would have been: immediate disengagement of autoplt and power levers to idle. Fortunately no other planes were affected by our WX induced altitude error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC HAD ALT EXCURSION IN A LR-60 WHEN ENCOUNTERING MOUNTAIN WAVE ACTIVITY AND TURB NEAR DEN, CO.
Narrative: WE WERE INBOUND ON THE QUAIL 3 ARR TO APA. WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO CROSS QUAIL AT 16000 FT MSL AND 250 KTS. AFTER LEVELING AT 16000 FT MSL, CREW EXPERIENCED MODERATE TO SEVERE CHOP AND MOUNTAIN WAVE ACTIVITY. THE AUTOPLT WAS ON TURB MODE TO DAMPEN THE CORRECTION FOR COMFORT. WHILE CLBING THROUGH 16200 FT MSL, CREW REALIZED THAT THE WX CONDITIONS EXCEEDED THE AUTOPLT LIMITATIONS AND BEGAN CORRECTION INPUTS. CLBING THROUGH 16500 FT MSL, I REALIZED THAT MY SENIOR CO-CAPT'S INPUTS WOULD NOT RESOLVE THE PROB AND SELECTED 'OFF' OF THE AUTOPLT. I THEN ORDERED HE GAIN CTL OF THE ACFT AT 16700 FT MSL. (I WOULD HAVE TAKEN CTL AT THIS POINT.) HE OBTAINED CTL AND IMMEDIATELY STARTED A DSCNT TO 16000 FT MSL. I THEN EXPLAINED TO DENVER OUR SIT. STRATUS AND TINY CUMULUS CLOUDS WERE ENRTE. NO SIGNS OF VENTRICULAR CLOUDS. SIGMET 'V2' FOR OCCASIONAL SEVERE TURB BELOW FL220, STANDING UP- AND DOWNDRAFTS VICINITY MOUNTAINS WAS ISSUED, SO WE WERE PREWARNED. WE WERE FLYING CO-CAPTS ON OUR FIRST TRIP TOGETHER. NOT KNOWING EACH OTHER'S EXPERIENCE AND I BEING THE JUNIOR CAPT, MADE THIS A TOUCHY ISSUE. I WOULD HAVE TAKEN CTL AT 16300 FT MS. WITH ANY OF MY FO'S. I ASSUME THIS CAPT'S EXPERIENCE WAS LOW. CRM ISSUES EXIST WITH 2 CAPTS, AS YOU CAN CLRLY SEE. THE ONLY WAY TO CORRECT THIS PROB WOULD HAVE BEEN: IMMEDIATE DISENGAGEMENT OF AUTOPLT AND PWR LEVERS TO IDLE. FORTUNATELY NO OTHER PLANES WERE AFFECTED BY OUR WX INDUCED ALT ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.