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Attributes | |
ACN | 544974 |
Time | |
Date | 200204 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bur.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 2900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 900 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 544974 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On apr/tue/02, a group of 4 airplanes flew to cma. I was flying north of the freeway close to the mountains at approximately 5000 ft. I was trying to stay under 5000 ft to break in a rebuilt engine. As I was approaching bur, I told the guys I was going to have to go to 6500 ft to stay legal. One of the guys told me that I could go down the 210 freeway and then the 101 freeway sna stay out of class B, class C, and class D airspace below 3000 ft. Without checking my sectional, terminal chart or my GPS, I followed his instructions. This was a big mistake. I have been through this area many times and was in doubt of this being correct. When I returned to cma I was informed that I was to call socal bur area which I did and was informed that I had broken the bur, vny airspace. Before I called, I looked at the sectional and could see that I blatantly flew through the class C, class D airspace. I called socal and talked to the controller. He said that he just wanted to let me know what I did. I told the controller my story and that it will never happen again. Any time I go through the los angeles area, I would use flight following and stay at the proper altitudes and course.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLASS C AND CLASS D AIRSPACE INCURSION BY A LOW FLYING EXPRESS RV6A EXPERIMENTAL ACFT ON A VFR FLT TO CMA, CA.
Narrative: ON APR/TUE/02, A GROUP OF 4 AIRPLANES FLEW TO CMA. I WAS FLYING N OF THE FREEWAY CLOSE TO THE MOUNTAINS AT APPROX 5000 FT. I WAS TRYING TO STAY UNDER 5000 FT TO BREAK IN A REBUILT ENG. AS I WAS APCHING BUR, I TOLD THE GUYS I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO 6500 FT TO STAY LEGAL. ONE OF THE GUYS TOLD ME THAT I COULD GO DOWN THE 210 FREEWAY AND THEN THE 101 FREEWAY SNA STAY OUT OF CLASS B, CLASS C, AND CLASS D AIRSPACE BELOW 3000 FT. WITHOUT CHKING MY SECTIONAL, TERMINAL CHART OR MY GPS, I FOLLOWED HIS INSTRUCTIONS. THIS WAS A BIG MISTAKE. I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS AREA MANY TIMES AND WAS IN DOUBT OF THIS BEING CORRECT. WHEN I RETURNED TO CMA I WAS INFORMED THAT I WAS TO CALL SOCAL BUR AREA WHICH I DID AND WAS INFORMED THAT I HAD BROKEN THE BUR, VNY AIRSPACE. BEFORE I CALLED, I LOOKED AT THE SECTIONAL AND COULD SEE THAT I BLATANTLY FLEW THROUGH THE CLASS C, CLASS D AIRSPACE. I CALLED SOCAL AND TALKED TO THE CTLR. HE SAID THAT HE JUST WANTED TO LET ME KNOW WHAT I DID. I TOLD THE CTLR MY STORY AND THAT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. ANY TIME I GO THROUGH THE LOS ANGELES AREA, I WOULD USE FLT FOLLOWING AND STAY AT THE PROPER ALTS AND COURSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.