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Flight instructor requests holding for student practice, assumes IFR clearance and commences to enter IMC. Practice holding is not clearance for IMC flight.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 544983 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200204 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : mlb.vor |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dab.tracon tower : zzz.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other ndb |
| Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 420 flight time type : 20 |
| ASRS Report | 544983 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : vfr in imc non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying with my instructor and I was under the hood practicing instrument holding. My instructor was responsible for radio communication and looking outside for traffic. He contacted daytona approach control for holding over satellite NDB at melbourne, fl. ATC told him he was cleared to hold. After 5 mins of holding and going through clouds (according to my instructor) he contacted ATC and requested to cancel IFR clearance and land at melbourne. ATC said that we were not cleared for IFR. They said they didn't mention the word 'IFR' and my instructor assumed that we were cleared based on our clearance to hold.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT INSTRUCTOR REQUESTS HOLDING FOR STUDENT PRACTICE, ASSUMES IFR CLRNC AND COMMENCES TO ENTER IMC. PRACTICE HOLDING IS NOT CLRNC FOR IMC FLT.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING WITH MY INSTRUCTOR AND I WAS UNDER THE HOOD PRACTICING INST HOLDING. MY INSTRUCTOR WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR RADIO COM AND LOOKING OUTSIDE FOR TFC. HE CONTACTED DAYTONA APCH CTL FOR HOLDING OVER SATELLITE NDB AT MELBOURNE, FL. ATC TOLD HIM HE WAS CLRED TO HOLD. AFTER 5 MINS OF HOLDING AND GOING THROUGH CLOUDS (ACCORDING TO MY INSTRUCTOR) HE CONTACTED ATC AND REQUESTED TO CANCEL IFR CLRNC AND LAND AT MELBOURNE. ATC SAID THAT WE WERE NOT CLRED FOR IFR. THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T MENTION THE WORD 'IFR' AND MY INSTRUCTOR ASSUMED THAT WE WERE CLRED BASED ON OUR CLRNC TO HOLD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.