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After takeoff, a DHC8 air carrier off unv stayed on a 200 degree heading for noise abatement until 6000 ft without any instruction from the controller to proceed on course.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 545283 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200204 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : unv.airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : noise abatement |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 545283 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Departing state college, PA, first officer got clearance, direct rashe intersection. There is a sign for noise abatement fly a heading and climb to 2600 ft before turning on course. We departed, flew the heading, checked in with center, and they replied radar contact, our heading was 200 degrees and kept climbing (our course was 090 degrees). We did not have an RNAV and could not go on course to rashe. I expected to get a direct clearance, and did not think to turn on course. We just flew the 200 degree heading. At about 6000 ft, I asked for a turn and was informed that we were cleared direct already, and were causing a safety hazard by not doing so. We were on his radar going the wrong way, and center said nothing until I asked. This is safe? Because of the on air chastening, we just coupled with the turn to the newly cleared VOR (ravine) and flew on. I did not get into an argument, and did not advise that we did not have an RNAV system.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER TKOF, A DHC8 ACR OFF UNV STAYED ON A 200 DEG HDG FOR NOISE ABATEMENT UNTIL 6000 FT WITHOUT ANY INSTRUCTION FROM THE CTLR TO PROCEED ON COURSE.
Narrative: DEPARTING STATE COLLEGE, PA, FO GOT CLRNC, DIRECT RASHE INTXN. THERE IS A SIGN FOR NOISE ABATEMENT FLY A HDG AND CLB TO 2600 FT BEFORE TURNING ON COURSE. WE DEPARTED, FLEW THE HDG, CHKED IN WITH CTR, AND THEY REPLIED RADAR CONTACT, OUR HDG WAS 200 DEGS AND KEPT CLBING (OUR COURSE WAS 090 DEGS). WE DID NOT HAVE AN RNAV AND COULD NOT GO ON COURSE TO RASHE. I EXPECTED TO GET A DIRECT CLRNC, AND DID NOT THINK TO TURN ON COURSE. WE JUST FLEW THE 200 DEG HDG. AT ABOUT 6000 FT, I ASKED FOR A TURN AND WAS INFORMED THAT WE WERE CLRED DIRECT ALREADY, AND WERE CAUSING A SAFETY HAZARD BY NOT DOING SO. WE WERE ON HIS RADAR GOING THE WRONG WAY, AND CTR SAID NOTHING UNTIL I ASKED. THIS IS SAFE? BECAUSE OF THE ON AIR CHASTENING, WE JUST COUPLED WITH THE TURN TO THE NEWLY CLRED VOR (RAVINE) AND FLEW ON. I DID NOT GET INTO AN ARGUMENT, AND DID NOT ADVISE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE AN RNAV SYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.