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Jfk local controller is concerned when the tmu at new york TRACON selects runways with a strong crosswind.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 546375 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200204 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Fog Rain Turbulence Windshear other |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : jfk.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll landing : missed approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 546375 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Facility FAA Weather |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Once again the traffic management folks are more concerned about delays than safety. While working local control at jfk, I was forced to land aircraft on runways 4R&left with winds of 140 degrees, at speeds of 25 KTS gusting to 30 KTS. The tmu did not want to use the ILS to runway 13L because of its impact on delays in the new york area. We were forced to land aircraft on runway 4R in IFR conditions with no usable runway lights and a 30+ KT crosswind for the sake of delays. I write these reports every time were forced into these configns and I am begging you to please get the TRACON to stop doing this before someone gets hurt. Pilots complain and it is very unsafe. The tower has a runway wind chart that is always ignored in sits like this and I don't know why. I am aware that efficiency is important, but when it compromises safety we need to draw the line. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter said runway configns at jfk are decided by the new york TRACON. He said the reason is because each jfk runway confign impacts lga, ewr, and teb. He said a conference call is made at the beginning of each shift with all tmc's and the tmu at new york to determine runways to be used.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: JFK LCL CTLR IS CONCERNED WHEN THE TMU AT NEW YORK TRACON SELECTS RWYS WITH A STRONG XWIND.
Narrative: ONCE AGAIN THE TFC MGMNT FOLKS ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT DELAYS THAN SAFETY. WHILE WORKING LCL CTL AT JFK, I WAS FORCED TO LAND ACFT ON RWYS 4R&L WITH WINDS OF 140 DEGS, AT SPDS OF 25 KTS GUSTING TO 30 KTS. THE TMU DID NOT WANT TO USE THE ILS TO RWY 13L BECAUSE OF ITS IMPACT ON DELAYS IN THE NEW YORK AREA. WE WERE FORCED TO LAND ACFT ON RWY 4R IN IFR CONDITIONS WITH NO USABLE RWY LIGHTS AND A 30+ KT XWIND FOR THE SAKE OF DELAYS. I WRITE THESE RPTS EVERY TIME WERE FORCED INTO THESE CONFIGNS AND I AM BEGGING YOU TO PLEASE GET THE TRACON TO STOP DOING THIS BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT. PLTS COMPLAIN AND IT IS VERY UNSAFE. THE TWR HAS A RWY WIND CHART THAT IS ALWAYS IGNORED IN SITS LIKE THIS AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. I AM AWARE THAT EFFICIENCY IS IMPORTANT, BUT WHEN IT COMPROMISES SAFETY WE NEED TO DRAW THE LINE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR SAID RWY CONFIGNS AT JFK ARE DECIDED BY THE NEW YORK TRACON. HE SAID THE REASON IS BECAUSE EACH JFK RWY CONFIGN IMPACTS LGA, EWR, AND TEB. HE SAID A CONFERENCE CALL IS MADE AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH SHIFT WITH ALL TMC'S AND THE TMU AT NEW YORK TO DETERMINE RWYS TO BE USED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.