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Attributes | |
ACN | 547919 |
Time | |
Date | 200205 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : rbv.vortac |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 12700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : korry 1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 14500 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 547919 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending into lga on the descent profile on the korry 1 arrival. We crossed holey intersection at 13500 ft and saw we could not make brand intersection at 11000 ft. We called lga approach at 17 DME from rbv (2 DME prior to brand) at 12700 ft and told them we would not be able to make the crossing restr at brand. Lga approach then cleared us to rbv direct lga and to descend down to 10000 ft. The mileage between holey and brand is 6 mi. This crossing restr from at or above 13000 ft at holey and then to descend to brand at 11000 ft in 6 mi is difficult to do and be comfortable to our passenger.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC ON KORRY 1 ARR MISSES XING RESTR.
Narrative: DSNDING INTO LGA ON THE DSCNT PROFILE ON THE KORRY 1 ARR. WE CROSSED HOLEY INTXN AT 13500 FT AND SAW WE COULD NOT MAKE BRAND INTXN AT 11000 FT. WE CALLED LGA APCH AT 17 DME FROM RBV (2 DME PRIOR TO BRAND) AT 12700 FT AND TOLD THEM WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE XING RESTR AT BRAND. LGA APCH THEN CLRED US TO RBV DIRECT LGA AND TO DSND DOWN TO 10000 FT. THE MILEAGE BTWN HOLEY AND BRAND IS 6 MI. THIS XING RESTR FROM AT OR ABOVE 13000 FT AT HOLEY AND THEN TO DSND TO BRAND AT 11000 FT IN 6 MI IS DIFFICULT TO DO AND BE COMFORTABLE TO OUR PAX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.