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An S80 PIC is advised that his aircraft turned to a heading that would take him out of the approach controller's limits on the clarr 1 arrival into las, nv.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 551268 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200206 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
| State Reference | NV |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | arrival star : skebr |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 551268 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 551525 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication Airspace Structure Aircraft |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During arrival to las, CLARR1.skebr intersection, controller asked if we were turning to heading 345 degrees. We replied that we were in the turn. We had a backup navigation of the GPS, in heading select to 345 degrees. We completed the turn with a follow-up 020 degree heading given by the controller. We were at 12000 ft, at 250 KTS at skebr as assigned. After the controller assigned 020 degree heading, he asked which arrival we were on and we confirmed CLARR1. We were asked to call the approach facility on the ground. No conflicts occurred. Talking with the supervisor at las, he said their radar showed us approaching the limits of their arrival airspace. There were no conflicts, but he was curious as to what equipment we had, as they have had previous problems with mileage limits on RNAV equipped aircraft on all airlines. He was interested in the maker of our GPS, as they are trying to work out any further problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN S80 PIC IS ADVISED THAT HIS ACFT TURNED TO A HDG THAT WOULD TAKE HIM OUT OF THE APCH CTLR'S LIMITS ON THE CLARR 1 ARR INTO LAS, NV.
Narrative: DURING ARR TO LAS, CLARR1.SKEBR INTXN, CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE TURNING TO HDG 345 DEGS. WE REPLIED THAT WE WERE IN THE TURN. WE HAD A BACKUP NAV OF THE GPS, IN HDG SELECT TO 345 DEGS. WE COMPLETED THE TURN WITH A FOLLOW-UP 020 DEG HDG GIVEN BY THE CTLR. WE WERE AT 12000 FT, AT 250 KTS AT SKEBR AS ASSIGNED. AFTER THE CTLR ASSIGNED 020 DEG HDG, HE ASKED WHICH ARR WE WERE ON AND WE CONFIRMED CLARR1. WE WERE ASKED TO CALL THE APCH FACILITY ON THE GND. NO CONFLICTS OCCURRED. TALKING WITH THE SUPVR AT LAS, HE SAID THEIR RADAR SHOWED US APCHING THE LIMITS OF THEIR ARR AIRSPACE. THERE WERE NO CONFLICTS, BUT HE WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHAT EQUIP WE HAD, AS THEY HAVE HAD PREVIOUS PROBS WITH MILEAGE LIMITS ON RNAV EQUIPPED ACFT ON ALL AIRLINES. HE WAS INTERESTED IN THE MAKER OF OUR GPS, AS THEY ARE TRYING TO WORK OUT ANY FURTHER PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.