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Attributes | |
ACN | 553418 |
Time | |
Date | 200206 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : psp.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 60 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 2450 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 553418 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We landed on runway 31L (which is 10000 ft long). While still rolling out on the runway, tower aid 'right turn 150, where are you parking?' I responded (acting as copilot) 'carrier X' and they replied, 'right on taxiway C, taxi sebound, contact ground point niner.' at this time the captain was still taxiing clear of the runway. I read back the clearance. (The next sequence of events happened in under 10 seconds in a taxi span of a couple aircraft lengths. By this time, we were clear of the hold short line and practically on taxiway C (very short intersection). We were still rolling since we were cleared to taxi and the captain said 'clear on the right?' I looked right (I thought he was turning right) and said 'clear right.' I reached up to switch to ground. The ground person was talking to someone, so I reached down and switched off the recognition, strobe, and landing lights. I realized we didn't turn and looked back up (only 2 seconds later), and I saw a runway in front of us. (I believe my thought process was, he thinks that runway is charlie and he is going to turn right on it.) I said 'that's a runway.' the captain said, 'yeah, charlie is on the other side.' before I could process this, we were across the hold short line and rolling across the runway. I was aware we were in the wrong place, but now felt the only thing to do was to continue across and get clear. It was too late to stop. Once across, the captain keyed up ground and began to talk to the controllers. They gave us a phone number for a possible pilot deviation. The controllers then cleared us to the ramp. We then completed the after landing checklist on the way to the ramp. After disembarking our passenger, the captain went inside to make phone calls. He then came out to the airplane and I overheard him discussing with our chief pilot the possibility of taking a ride down to the intersection to look at it. The captain then attempted to call back the person who had offered this to him earlier. However, for some reason, this couldn't be arranged. The captain decided to head back to home. I hopped up front and called for our clearance. The captain then started the engines. While sitting in the chocks, a white airport operations truck drove by and down towards the intersection in question. While taxiing out to runway 13R for departure, we went by the exact intersection we had been at. There is no charlie sign northwest or east of taxiway C. Nothing, on what would have been the captain's side, in front of us or at runway 13L/taxiway J where we had the incursion (despite a blank sign on the southeast of taxiway J/taxiway C at runway 13L). The sign says 'J/13L' but nothing about being 'on' taxiway C.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN LJ60 CREW, AFTER LNDG AT PSP, MISSED THE TURN ONTO THE PARALLEL TXWY AS INSTRUCTED AND CROSSED THE PARALLEL RWY.
Narrative: WE LANDED ON RWY 31L (WHICH IS 10000 FT LONG). WHILE STILL ROLLING OUT ON THE RWY, TWR AID 'R TURN 150, WHERE ARE YOU PARKING?' I RESPONDED (ACTING AS COPLT) 'CARRIER X' AND THEY REPLIED, 'R ON TXWY C, TAXI SEBOUND, CONTACT GND POINT NINER.' AT THIS TIME THE CAPT WAS STILL TAXIING CLR OF THE RWY. I READ BACK THE CLRNC. (THE NEXT SEQUENCE OF EVENTS HAPPENED IN UNDER 10 SECONDS IN A TAXI SPAN OF A COUPLE ACFT LENGTHS. BY THIS TIME, WE WERE CLR OF THE HOLD SHORT LINE AND PRACTICALLY ON TXWY C (VERY SHORT INTXN). WE WERE STILL ROLLING SINCE WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI AND THE CAPT SAID 'CLR ON THE R?' I LOOKED R (I THOUGHT HE WAS TURNING R) AND SAID 'CLR R.' I REACHED UP TO SWITCH TO GND. THE GND PERSON WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE, SO I REACHED DOWN AND SWITCHED OFF THE RECOGNITION, STROBE, AND LNDG LIGHTS. I REALIZED WE DIDN'T TURN AND LOOKED BACK UP (ONLY 2 SECONDS LATER), AND I SAW A RWY IN FRONT OF US. (I BELIEVE MY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, HE THINKS THAT RWY IS CHARLIE AND HE IS GOING TO TURN R ON IT.) I SAID 'THAT'S A RWY.' THE CAPT SAID, 'YEAH, CHARLIE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE.' BEFORE I COULD PROCESS THIS, WE WERE ACROSS THE HOLD SHORT LINE AND ROLLING ACROSS THE RWY. I WAS AWARE WE WERE IN THE WRONG PLACE, BUT NOW FELT THE ONLY THING TO DO WAS TO CONTINUE ACROSS AND GET CLR. IT WAS TOO LATE TO STOP. ONCE ACROSS, THE CAPT KEYED UP GND AND BEGAN TO TALK TO THE CTLRS. THEY GAVE US A PHONE NUMBER FOR A POSSIBLE PLTDEV. THE CTLRS THEN CLRED US TO THE RAMP. WE THEN COMPLETED THE AFTER LNDG CHKLIST ON THE WAY TO THE RAMP. AFTER DISEMBARKING OUR PAX, THE CAPT WENT INSIDE TO MAKE PHONE CALLS. HE THEN CAME OUT TO THE AIRPLANE AND I OVERHEARD HIM DISCUSSING WITH OUR CHIEF PLT THE POSSIBILITY OF TAKING A RIDE DOWN TO THE INTXN TO LOOK AT IT. THE CAPT THEN ATTEMPTED TO CALL BACK THE PERSON WHO HAD OFFERED THIS TO HIM EARLIER. HOWEVER, FOR SOME REASON, THIS COULDN'T BE ARRANGED. THE CAPT DECIDED TO HEAD BACK TO HOME. I HOPPED UP FRONT AND CALLED FOR OUR CLRNC. THE CAPT THEN STARTED THE ENGS. WHILE SITTING IN THE CHOCKS, A WHITE ARPT OPS TRUCK DROVE BY AND DOWN TOWARDS THE INTXN IN QUESTION. WHILE TAXIING OUT TO RWY 13R FOR DEP, WE WENT BY THE EXACT INTXN WE HAD BEEN AT. THERE IS NO CHARLIE SIGN NW OR E OF TXWY C. NOTHING, ON WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE CAPT'S SIDE, IN FRONT OF US OR AT RWY 13L/TXWY J WHERE WE HAD THE INCURSION (DESPITE A BLANK SIGN ON THE SE OF TXWY J/TXWY C AT RWY 13L). THE SIGN SAYS 'J/13L' BUT NOTHING ABOUT BEING 'ON' TXWY C.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.