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Attributes | |
ACN | 554538 |
Time | |
Date | 200207 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lse.airport |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | agl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lse.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lse.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual approach : traffic pattern |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 900 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 554538 |
Person 2 | |
Function | observation : passenger |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I obtained ATIS while under VFR flight following. After being released by center, I called lacrosse tower 12 mi out and was told to 'report 2 mi west, runway 22.' after continuing inbound, we (my private pilot rated spouse) heard flight of 2 edges (approximately 8 mi) report 'request straight-in, runway 3 with a low overhead.' to which the tower responded 'approved, left turn for re-entry.' my spouse said 'he just turned them into us. Call the tower, we are 2.5 mi out, where are the edges?' 'there they are' (edges were approximately 100 ft above and 200 ft to our left, passing directly over us). No evasive action was taken by any aircraft. The edges were on a left downwind for runway 3. I called the tower to tell him 'the edges just passed over the top of us, what do you want us to do now?' the tower responded 'oh, well let's see -- just follow them.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EXPERIMENTAL RV6 PLT AND PAX ARE SUBJECTED TO AN NMAC BY A FLT OF 2 ZIVCO 'EDGES' ACROBATIC ACFT THAT WERE PERMITTED TO PERFORM A LOW OVERHEAD, STRAIGHT-IN RUN TO RWY 3 BY LCL CTLR AT LSE, WI.
Narrative: I OBTAINED ATIS WHILE UNDER VFR FLT FOLLOWING. AFTER BEING RELEASED BY CTR, I CALLED LACROSSE TWR 12 MI OUT AND WAS TOLD TO 'RPT 2 MI W, RWY 22.' AFTER CONTINUING INBOUND, WE (MY PVT PLT RATED SPOUSE) HEARD FLT OF 2 EDGES (APPROX 8 MI) RPT 'REQUEST STRAIGHT-IN, RWY 3 WITH A LOW OVERHEAD.' TO WHICH THE TWR RESPONDED 'APPROVED, L TURN FOR RE-ENTRY.' MY SPOUSE SAID 'HE JUST TURNED THEM INTO US. CALL THE TWR, WE ARE 2.5 MI OUT, WHERE ARE THE EDGES?' 'THERE THEY ARE' (EDGES WERE APPROX 100 FT ABOVE AND 200 FT TO OUR L, PASSING DIRECTLY OVER US). NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN BY ANY ACFT. THE EDGES WERE ON A L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 3. I CALLED THE TWR TO TELL HIM 'THE EDGES JUST PASSED OVER THE TOP OF US, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO NOW?' THE TWR RESPONDED 'OH, WELL LET'S SEE -- JUST FOLLOW THEM.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.