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Attributes | |
ACN | 554925 |
Time | |
Date | 200207 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ttt.vor |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : dall 6 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 12400 flight time type : 3100 |
ASRS Report | 554925 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : heading comparitor (heading system) other controllerb other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated controller : provided flight assist flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While at the gate, I programmed the FMS. We had a heading comparator warning, ie, the pilot's and copilot's headings are not matched up. We had manually matched up the heading information on our EFIS tubes. As we taxied to runway 17R, short of the runway, a heading warning came on again, so after we lined up on the runway we again manually matched up the headings. On our FMS we do not have GPS information, so we can press a button 'runway update' to give the FMS a more accurate starting point, as opposed to the gate location, and then taxi 2 mi to the runway. I was distraction with getting the headings lined up and I did not press the 'runway update.' I had a very new, 100 hour in type, copilot. We were on the dall 6 SID. Shortly after takeoff, we got another heading warning. We switched to a departure controller. The SID was: fly 174 degree heading, so with the autoplt in heading mode, I was trying to fly with the standby magnetic compass. The controller gave us a left turn to an east heading. For whatever reason the airplane was only doing about 18 degrees of bank at 250 KIAS. The controller told us to tighten the turn and turn further left to 070 degree heading (I think). So, now I turned off the autoplt and did a 30 degree bank while flying on the standby compass. At this time the FMS got lost and gave us a 'check position warning.' the controller then told us to join the maverick 084 degree radial. I asked the copilot to select VOR green data on his side and dial in maverick 084 degree radial. He was lost at this time. So I (while hand flying) dialed in 113.1 and 084 degree radial. I turned the autoplt back on. The copilot was starting to catch up. The controller gave us direct soldo intersection. I got the headings realigned and shortly thereafter reinitialized the FMS position. The only thing I would have done differently would be to let the controller know we had a heading and FMS problem. The controller did contact our company and wondered why rj's couldn't follow a normal ground track. We are researching to see if other crews have multiple heading warnings at dfw like we have at lga.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF CL-65RJ HAS HDG SYS FAILURE DURING DEP FROM DFW.
Narrative: WHILE AT THE GATE, I PROGRAMMED THE FMS. WE HAD A HDG COMPARATOR WARNING, IE, THE PLT'S AND COPLT'S HDGS ARE NOT MATCHED UP. WE HAD MANUALLY MATCHED UP THE HDG INFO ON OUR EFIS TUBES. AS WE TAXIED TO RWY 17R, SHORT OF THE RWY, A HDG WARNING CAME ON AGAIN, SO AFTER WE LINED UP ON THE RWY WE AGAIN MANUALLY MATCHED UP THE HDGS. ON OUR FMS WE DO NOT HAVE GPS INFO, SO WE CAN PRESS A BUTTON 'RWY UPDATE' TO GIVE THE FMS A MORE ACCURATE STARTING POINT, AS OPPOSED TO THE GATE LOCATION, AND THEN TAXI 2 MI TO THE RWY. I WAS DISTR WITH GETTING THE HDGS LINED UP AND I DID NOT PRESS THE 'RWY UPDATE.' I HAD A VERY NEW, 100 HR IN TYPE, COPLT. WE WERE ON THE DALL 6 SID. SHORTLY AFTER TKOF, WE GOT ANOTHER HDG WARNING. WE SWITCHED TO A DEP CTLR. THE SID WAS: FLY 174 DEG HDG, SO WITH THE AUTOPLT IN HDG MODE, I WAS TRYING TO FLY WITH THE STANDBY MAGNETIC COMPASS. THE CTLR GAVE US A L TURN TO AN E HDG. FOR WHATEVER REASON THE AIRPLANE WAS ONLY DOING ABOUT 18 DEGS OF BANK AT 250 KIAS. THE CTLR TOLD US TO TIGHTEN THE TURN AND TURN FURTHER L TO 070 DEG HDG (I THINK). SO, NOW I TURNED OFF THE AUTOPLT AND DID A 30 DEG BANK WHILE FLYING ON THE STANDBY COMPASS. AT THIS TIME THE FMS GOT LOST AND GAVE US A 'CHK POS WARNING.' THE CTLR THEN TOLD US TO JOIN THE MAVERICK 084 DEG RADIAL. I ASKED THE COPLT TO SELECT VOR GREEN DATA ON HIS SIDE AND DIAL IN MAVERICK 084 DEG RADIAL. HE WAS LOST AT THIS TIME. SO I (WHILE HAND FLYING) DIALED IN 113.1 AND 084 DEG RADIAL. I TURNED THE AUTOPLT BACK ON. THE COPLT WAS STARTING TO CATCH UP. THE CTLR GAVE US DIRECT SOLDO INTXN. I GOT THE HDGS REALIGNED AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER REINITIALIZED THE FMS POS. THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY WOULD BE TO LET THE CTLR KNOW WE HAD A HDG AND FMS PROB. THE CTLR DID CONTACT OUR COMPANY AND WONDERED WHY RJ'S COULDN'T FOLLOW A NORMAL GND TRACK. WE ARE RESEARCHING TO SEE IF OTHER CREWS HAVE MULTIPLE HDG WARNINGS AT DFW LIKE WE HAVE AT LGA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.