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Attributes | |
ACN | 556597 |
Time | |
Date | 200208 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 195 flight time total : 7200 flight time type : 195 |
ASRS Report | 556597 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was the PF on the MD88 while being vectored for the ILS runway 18L at cvg. Cincinnati approach advised me and my captain that we had cherokee traffic at 10-11 O'clock, 6 mi level at 8500 ft MSL. The traffic appeared on our TCASII as a TA. Approach control then advised us that the cherokee had our MD88 in sight. Neither myself nor my captain had visual contact with the traffic. As the TA moved closer on our TCASII, I rested my thumb on the autoplt disconnect switch. Our traffic appeared to get closer horizontally and vertically. Eventually, our TCASII showed our separation at 300 ft and 2 NM. This close proximity caused our TA to become an RA. I immediately disconnected the autoplt and followed the RA's instruction to 'descend, descend.' our evasive maneuver caused our aircraft to leave our assigned altitude of 8000 ft and descend to 7600 ft MSL. We advised the approach controller of our action and that we would resume 8000 ft MSL since we were now clear of the conflict. The controller said not to worry and issued us instruction to descend to 4000 ft for continued vectors to the ILS runway 18L. I can only speculate the reason for the conflict being cherokee traffic having an incorrect altimeter setting. Since this traffic had reported to ATC that they had visual contact on our MD88, I don't understand why that traffic would continue to reduce our separation to the point of activating our RA for evasive action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 FLC DSNDED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA CAUSED BY VFR PIPER CHEROKEE THAT INDICATED A LOWER ALT THAN RPTED.
Narrative: I WAS THE PF ON THE MD88 WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR THE ILS RWY 18L AT CVG. CINCINNATI APCH ADVISED ME AND MY CAPT THAT WE HAD CHEROKEE TFC AT 10-11 O'CLOCK, 6 MI LEVEL AT 8500 FT MSL. THE TFC APPEARED ON OUR TCASII AS A TA. APCH CTL THEN ADVISED US THAT THE CHEROKEE HAD OUR MD88 IN SIGHT. NEITHER MYSELF NOR MY CAPT HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE TFC. AS THE TA MOVED CLOSER ON OUR TCASII, I RESTED MY THUMB ON THE AUTOPLT DISCONNECT SWITCH. OUR TFC APPEARED TO GET CLOSER HORIZLY AND VERTLY. EVENTUALLY, OUR TCASII SHOWED OUR SEPARATION AT 300 FT AND 2 NM. THIS CLOSE PROX CAUSED OUR TA TO BECOME AN RA. I IMMEDIATELY DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND FOLLOWED THE RA'S INSTRUCTION TO 'DSND, DSND.' OUR EVASIVE MANEUVER CAUSED OUR ACFT TO LEAVE OUR ASSIGNED ALT OF 8000 FT AND DSND TO 7600 FT MSL. WE ADVISED THE APCH CTLR OF OUR ACTION AND THAT WE WOULD RESUME 8000 FT MSL SINCE WE WERE NOW CLR OF THE CONFLICT. THE CTLR SAID NOT TO WORRY AND ISSUED US INSTRUCTION TO DSND TO 4000 FT FOR CONTINUED VECTORS TO THE ILS RWY 18L. I CAN ONLY SPECULATE THE REASON FOR THE CONFLICT BEING CHEROKEE TFC HAVING AN INCORRECT ALTIMETER SETTING. SINCE THIS TFC HAD RPTED TO ATC THAT THEY HAD VISUAL CONTACT ON OUR MD88, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT TFC WOULD CONTINUE TO REDUCE OUR SEPARATION TO THE POINT OF ACTIVATING OUR RA FOR EVASIVE ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.