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Attributes | |
ACN | 557921 |
Time | |
Date | 200208 |
Day | Fri |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : cle.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 557921 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe ground encounters other incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
With regard to cle airfield's diagram, on 10-9 page, aug/xa/02, if taxiway west has reversed hold lines, like txwys north, K, right, south, Z, then the airfield diagram should be amended to reflect this situation with similar notes 1 and 2. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the tower spokesman was contacted and referring to recent aerial photo of the airport, stated there were markings on taxiway west. He said the commercial chart company would be contacted and asked to include markings in their next publication. Reporter stated the reporting air carrier captain had been cleared to land on runway 6R with a low ceiling at the time. When they broke out, another aircraft was taking position for the same runway and they were switched to runway 6C. On rollout, they were instructed to hold on taxiway west, short of runway 6R. He said they became confused because of the double hold line markings between the closely spaced runways. The controller instructed them to stop as they turned onto taxiway west. He believes they may have crossed the hold line that applied to runway 6R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMJ CAPT AT CLE OBSERVES HOLD LINES FOR RWYS 24L AND 24C ON TXWY W ARE NOT DEPICTED ON THE COMMERCIAL ARPT CHART, AND IS INVOLVED IN A RWY INCURSION.
Narrative: WITH REGARD TO CLE AIRFIELD'S DIAGRAM, ON 10-9 PAGE, AUG/XA/02, IF TXWY W HAS REVERSED HOLD LINES, LIKE TXWYS N, K, R, S, Z, THEN THE AIRFIELD DIAGRAM SHOULD BE AMENDED TO REFLECT THIS SIT WITH SIMILAR NOTES 1 AND 2. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE TWR SPOKESMAN WAS CONTACTED AND REFERRING TO RECENT AERIAL PHOTO OF THE ARPT, STATED THERE WERE MARKINGS ON TXWY W. HE SAID THE COMMERCIAL CHART COMPANY WOULD BE CONTACTED AND ASKED TO INCLUDE MARKINGS IN THEIR NEXT PUB. RPTR STATED THE REPORTING ACR CAPT HAD BEEN CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 6R WITH A LOW CEILING AT THE TIME. WHEN THEY BROKE OUT, ANOTHER ACFT WAS TAKING POS FOR THE SAME RWY AND THEY WERE SWITCHED TO RWY 6C. ON ROLLOUT, THEY WERE INSTRUCTED TO HOLD ON TXWY W, SHORT OF RWY 6R. HE SAID THEY BECAME CONFUSED BECAUSE OF THE DOUBLE HOLD LINE MARKINGS BTWN THE CLOSELY SPACED RWYS. THE CTLR INSTRUCTED THEM TO STOP AS THEY TURNED ONTO TXWY W. HE BELIEVES THEY MAY HAVE CROSSED THE HOLD LINE THAT APPLIED TO RWY 6R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.