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An MD80 crew, following an emergency in mmgl, insulted local officials by wanting to be present while their airman certificates were being copied.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 558435 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200208 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mmgl.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 558435 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA Airport |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
After our emergency at gdl, I had to go over to the airport authority/authorized office and make a report. The copilot and I were escorted by our manager. 2 gentlemen were in the office. They had airport badges and I assumed were airport mgrs. They never did introduce themselves -- even trough our interpreter. He wanted to copy our airman certificates in another room. Since I did not know who he was, I wanted to keep our certificates in sight while he did this. I followed him and watched him copy our certificates before he handed them back to me. He apparently was insulted by the way I acted in wanting to keep our tickets in sight, according to the general manager of air carrier X. The gentleman informed the general manager that he had the authority/authorized to take our certificates if he wanted to. I would have no problem with his authority/authorized, as long as he idented himself next time. My question is: how in mex are we obliged to give up our certificates to? Where can I find this information? I tried the part I and was unable to find out.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 CREW, FOLLOWING AN EMER IN MMGL, INSULTED LCL OFFICIALS BY WANTING TO BE PRESENT WHILE THEIR AIRMAN CERTIFICATES WERE BEING COPIED.
Narrative: AFTER OUR EMER AT GDL, I HAD TO GO OVER TO THE ARPT AUTH OFFICE AND MAKE A RPT. THE COPLT AND I WERE ESCORTED BY OUR MGR. 2 GENTLEMEN WERE IN THE OFFICE. THEY HAD ARPT BADGES AND I ASSUMED WERE ARPT MGRS. THEY NEVER DID INTRODUCE THEMSELVES -- EVEN TROUGH OUR INTERPRETER. HE WANTED TO COPY OUR AIRMAN CERTIFICATES IN ANOTHER ROOM. SINCE I DID NOT KNOW WHO HE WAS, I WANTED TO KEEP OUR CERTIFICATES IN SIGHT WHILE HE DID THIS. I FOLLOWED HIM AND WATCHED HIM COPY OUR CERTIFICATES BEFORE HE HANDED THEM BACK TO ME. HE APPARENTLY WAS INSULTED BY THE WAY I ACTED IN WANTING TO KEEP OUR TICKETS IN SIGHT, ACCORDING TO THE GENERAL MGR OF ACR X. THE GENTLEMAN INFORMED THE GENERAL MGR THAT HE HAD THE AUTH TO TAKE OUR CERTIFICATES IF HE WANTED TO. I WOULD HAVE NO PROB WITH HIS AUTH, AS LONG AS HE IDENTED HIMSELF NEXT TIME. MY QUESTION IS: HOW IN MEX ARE WE OBLIGED TO GIVE UP OUR CERTIFICATES TO? WHERE CAN I FIND THIS INFO? I TRIED THE PART I AND WAS UNABLE TO FIND OUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.