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Attributes | |
ACN | 559461 |
Time | |
Date | 200209 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 7g0.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 1300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 650 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 559461 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | other Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Myself and my student were doing touch-and-goes in a PA28-140 at 7g0. We were making all calls and were the only ones in the pattern. A call was heard, 'C152 east of airport will be entering downwind.' at this time I was upwind turning crosswind. Coming out of this turn, the previously called traffic was at pattern altitude entering direct on downwind. To avoid collision with traffic, I dove down on my crosswind and allowed traffic to pass over me. For separation purposes, I did a right 360 degree turn and rejoined downwind. I questioned C152 pilot and he responded, 'I said I was entering downwind and I had you in sight.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN 2 GA ACFT, A PA28 AND A C152 ON A L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 10 AT 7G0, NY.
Narrative: MYSELF AND MY STUDENT WERE DOING TOUCH-AND-GOES IN A PA28-140 AT 7G0. WE WERE MAKING ALL CALLS AND WERE THE ONLY ONES IN THE PATTERN. A CALL WAS HEARD, 'C152 E OF ARPT WILL BE ENTERING DOWNWIND.' AT THIS TIME I WAS UPWIND TURNING XWIND. COMING OUT OF THIS TURN, THE PREVIOUSLY CALLED TFC WAS AT PATTERN ALT ENTERING DIRECT ON DOWNWIND. TO AVOID COLLISION WITH TFC, I DOVE DOWN ON MY XWIND AND ALLOWED TFC TO PASS OVER ME. FOR SEPARATION PURPOSES, I DID A R 360 DEG TURN AND REJOINED DOWNWIND. I QUESTIONED C152 PLT AND HE RESPONDED, 'I SAID I WAS ENTERING DOWNWIND AND I HAD YOU IN SIGHT.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.