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Attributes | |
ACN | 559711 |
Time | |
Date | 200209 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : dhp.vortac |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc tracon : mia.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : fort lauderdale 9 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 559711 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 8100 flight time type : 1190 |
ASRS Report | 559710 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 26400 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We took off from fxe at XA30. The normal clearance is ft lauderdale 9, thndr transition as filed, climb and maintain 2000 ft. The usual heading after takeoff is 330 degrees. Both short range navs (vors) were set up for the 335 degree radial off of dhp VOR. I (the PF) was in the left seat and the captain (PNF) was in the right. After takeoff, we were assigned a 330 degree heading. Mia departure said to climb and maintain 16000 ft. I turned the autoplt on at about 8000 ft. Departure then said fly a 270 degree heading to intercept the thndr transition. I selected 1/2 bank for passenger comfort. As soon as the LNAV captured, it turned the 1/2 bank off. The captain (who was the PNF) asked if I wanted the FMS (blue) data. He entered it into his FMS and xferred it to my FMS. I looked at it and then selected the LNAV to arm the intercept for thndr. We leveled at 16000 ft. Then mia departure told us to fly a 240 degree heading for traffic. A frequency switch to ZMA. They told us to fly a 290 degree heading to intercept thndr again. I turned the heading bug and engaged LNAV again. Once on the 290 degree heading, I reached into my pocket to get a throat lozenge for I had a sore throat. As I was unwrapping the lozenge, miami told us to fly a 340 degree heading. I asked the captain if he could turn the aircraft. He deselected LNAV and selected heading. The 1/2 bank was still on. I popped the lozenges into my mouth and took the aircraft back from him. Miami cleared us to FL230 and told us to expedite the climb through 17000 ft. I was climbing at 2300 FPM. Miami pointed out traffic at 10 O'clock position and 6 mi. We both looked but did not have a visual on the traffic. We did see him on TCASII at about 5 mi. We saw a solid diamond but no RA. By my estimation, the traffic got within about 4.5 mi from us. Both the captain and I looked to see if we were off course. I had FMS data selected with a bearing pointer on the dhp VOR and the captain had short range dhp VOR on his side. We looked at both the needles and they seemed to match the 335 degree bearing to thndr. ZMA told us to call them when we landed. After we called miami on the ground, they said we were 4.4 mi and 400 ft from the other traffic who was on a departure out of miami. Also, we were 4 mi off course. Both I and the captain talked about it and we may have had the wrong radial in the FMS. In reflection, I think the use of 1/2 bank should only be used above FL180. Vigilance for the same departure that is flown day in and day out is very important. Always doublechk the other pilot -- even an experienced one. Also, since the giv is highly automated, the use of short range navigation should be used until you have captured the course.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INADVERTENTLY USING A ONE HALF BANK TURN WHICH GAVE A WIDER TURN THAN EXPECTED, A GULFSTREAM CREW LOSES SEPARATION FROM TFC UNDER ARTCC CTL.
Narrative: WE TOOK OFF FROM FXE AT XA30. THE NORMAL CLRNC IS FT LAUDERDALE 9, THNDR TRANSITION AS FILED, CLB AND MAINTAIN 2000 FT. THE USUAL HDG AFTER TKOF IS 330 DEGS. BOTH SHORT RANGE NAVS (VORS) WERE SET UP FOR THE 335 DEG RADIAL OFF OF DHP VOR. I (THE PF) WAS IN THE L SEAT AND THE CAPT (PNF) WAS IN THE R. AFTER TKOF, WE WERE ASSIGNED A 330 DEG HDG. MIA DEP SAID TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 16000 FT. I TURNED THE AUTOPLT ON AT ABOUT 8000 FT. DEP THEN SAID FLY A 270 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT THE THNDR TRANSITION. I SELECTED 1/2 BANK FOR PAX COMFORT. AS SOON AS THE LNAV CAPTURED, IT TURNED THE 1/2 BANK OFF. THE CAPT (WHO WAS THE PNF) ASKED IF I WANTED THE FMS (BLUE) DATA. HE ENTERED IT INTO HIS FMS AND XFERRED IT TO MY FMS. I LOOKED AT IT AND THEN SELECTED THE LNAV TO ARM THE INTERCEPT FOR THNDR. WE LEVELED AT 16000 FT. THEN MIA DEP TOLD US TO FLY A 240 DEG HDG FOR TFC. A FREQ SWITCH TO ZMA. THEY TOLD US TO FLY A 290 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT THNDR AGAIN. I TURNED THE HDG BUG AND ENGAGED LNAV AGAIN. ONCE ON THE 290 DEG HDG, I REACHED INTO MY POCKET TO GET A THROAT LOZENGE FOR I HAD A SORE THROAT. AS I WAS UNWRAPPING THE LOZENGE, MIAMI TOLD US TO FLY A 340 DEG HDG. I ASKED THE CAPT IF HE COULD TURN THE ACFT. HE DESELECTED LNAV AND SELECTED HDG. THE 1/2 BANK WAS STILL ON. I POPPED THE LOZENGES INTO MY MOUTH AND TOOK THE ACFT BACK FROM HIM. MIAMI CLRED US TO FL230 AND TOLD US TO EXPEDITE THE CLB THROUGH 17000 FT. I WAS CLBING AT 2300 FPM. MIAMI POINTED OUT TFC AT 10 O'CLOCK POS AND 6 MI. WE BOTH LOOKED BUT DID NOT HAVE A VISUAL ON THE TFC. WE DID SEE HIM ON TCASII AT ABOUT 5 MI. WE SAW A SOLID DIAMOND BUT NO RA. BY MY ESTIMATION, THE TFC GOT WITHIN ABOUT 4.5 MI FROM US. BOTH THE CAPT AND I LOOKED TO SEE IF WE WERE OFF COURSE. I HAD FMS DATA SELECTED WITH A BEARING POINTER ON THE DHP VOR AND THE CAPT HAD SHORT RANGE DHP VOR ON HIS SIDE. WE LOOKED AT BOTH THE NEEDLES AND THEY SEEMED TO MATCH THE 335 DEG BEARING TO THNDR. ZMA TOLD US TO CALL THEM WHEN WE LANDED. AFTER WE CALLED MIAMI ON THE GND, THEY SAID WE WERE 4.4 MI AND 400 FT FROM THE OTHER TFC WHO WAS ON A DEP OUT OF MIAMI. ALSO, WE WERE 4 MI OFF COURSE. BOTH I AND THE CAPT TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE MAY HAVE HAD THE WRONG RADIAL IN THE FMS. IN REFLECTION, I THINK THE USE OF 1/2 BANK SHOULD ONLY BE USED ABOVE FL180. VIGILANCE FOR THE SAME DEP THAT IS FLOWN DAY IN AND DAY OUT IS VERY IMPORTANT. ALWAYS DOUBLECHK THE OTHER PLT -- EVEN AN EXPERIENCED ONE. ALSO, SINCE THE GIV IS HIGHLY AUTOMATED, THE USE OF SHORT RANGE NAV SHOULD BE USED UNTIL YOU HAVE CAPTURED THE COURSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.