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Attributes | |
ACN | 560406 |
Time | |
Date | 200209 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : papee |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 30F |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : el nido 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 560406 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure FAA Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
The aircrew received a TCASII RA while on the el nido five arrival into sjc at an assigned altitude of 12000 ft. The TCASII directed us to 'climb now' and showed traffic to be 300-400 ft below our position. At the same time that the captain initiated an evasive climb out of 12000 ft, ATC notified us of VFR traffic in our vicinity of unknown altitude. After the traffic was clear of conflict, the captain descended back down to 12000 ft and notified ATC of the position of the conflicting VFR traffic. ATC seemed surprised by the proximity of the 2 aircraft and even reconfirmed our altitude assignment of 12000 ft. Although it was a very clear day, none of the crew members saw the other aircraft. I feel that the captain did the right thing by trusting the TCASII and following its commands. TCASII works great, even on a clear day when you feel more comfortable trusting your eyesight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC10 CREW HAD AN NMAC IN ZOA CLASS E.
Narrative: THE AIRCREW RECEIVED A TCASII RA WHILE ON THE EL NIDO FIVE ARR INTO SJC AT AN ASSIGNED ALT OF 12000 FT. THE TCASII DIRECTED US TO 'CLB NOW' AND SHOWED TFC TO BE 300-400 FT BELOW OUR POS. AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE CAPT INITIATED AN EVASIVE CLB OUT OF 12000 FT, ATC NOTIFIED US OF VFR TFC IN OUR VICINITY OF UNKNOWN ALT. AFTER THE TFC WAS CLR OF CONFLICT, THE CAPT DSNDED BACK DOWN TO 12000 FT AND NOTIFIED ATC OF THE POS OF THE CONFLICTING VFR TFC. ATC SEEMED SURPRISED BY THE PROX OF THE 2 ACFT AND EVEN RECONFIRMED OUR ALT ASSIGNMENT OF 12000 FT. ALTHOUGH IT WAS A VERY CLR DAY, NONE OF THE CREW MEMBERS SAW THE OTHER ACFT. I FEEL THAT THE CAPT DID THE RIGHT THING BY TRUSTING THE TCASII AND FOLLOWING ITS COMMANDS. TCASII WORKS GREAT, EVEN ON A CLR DAY WHEN YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE TRUSTING YOUR EYESIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.