<< >> NASA ASRS Report 561243, September 2002

A C150 instructor and student, after landing at bed, to the chagrin of ATC, stopped on the runway side of the hold lines instead of the taxi side.

Attributes
ACN	561243
Time
Date	200209
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bed.airport
State Reference	MA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Cessna 150
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 7230 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	561243
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : trainee
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

After landing, I was instructed to pull off onto the next available taxiway and contact ground control. After having had 'runway incursion horror stories' hurled at me for the past yr, I stopped on the runway side of the stop line, instead of the taxiway side of the stop line. The controller treated this with less than good humor and instructed me to stop on the other side of the hold short line. From there, ground again asked on what side of the line I was. I replied the taxiway side. He seemed confused. There was a moment of silence, and I was then cleared to return to the active runway for departure. At no time was there any aircraft conflict. I guess my point is that people can be over trained and oversensitive to anything. We are creating an aviation environment that is overly tense, overctled, underaccepted, and less and less safe.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A C150 INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT, AFTER LNDG AT BED, TO THE CHAGRIN OF ATC, STOPPED ON THE RWY SIDE OF THE HOLD LINES INSTEAD OF THE TAXI SIDE.

Narrative: AFTER LNDG, I WAS INSTRUCTED TO PULL OFF ONTO THE NEXT AVAILABLE TXWY AND CONTACT GND CTL. AFTER HAVING HAD 'RWY INCURSION HORROR STORIES' HURLED AT ME FOR THE PAST YR, I STOPPED ON THE RWY SIDE OF THE STOP LINE, INSTEAD OF THE TXWY SIDE OF THE STOP LINE. THE CTLR TREATED THIS WITH LESS THAN GOOD HUMOR AND INSTRUCTED ME TO STOP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOLD SHORT LINE. FROM THERE, GND AGAIN ASKED ON WHAT SIDE OF THE LINE I WAS. I REPLIED THE TXWY SIDE. HE SEEMED CONFUSED. THERE WAS A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND I WAS THEN CLRED TO RETURN TO THE ACTIVE RWY FOR DEP. AT NO TIME WAS THERE ANY ACFT CONFLICT. I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT PEOPLE CAN BE OVER TRAINED AND OVERSENSITIVE TO ANYTHING. WE ARE CREATING AN AVIATION ENVIRONMENT THAT IS OVERLY TENSE, OVERCTLED, UNDERACCEPTED, AND LESS AND LESS SAFE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.