37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 561537 |
Time | |
Date | 200209 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : sna.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 561537 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 561538 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Socal approach had placed us on a right downwind for ILS runway 19R at sna. We were at 3000 ft, the cloud bases were about 200 ft above us. Abeam snake intersection we began to watch a TCASII target about 3 mi ahead and to the left 800 ft above us. The target was wbound crossing our nose left to right and descending to 3000 ft as it did so. When the target reached a relative position of 1 O'clock position it turned into us causing an RA to climb. I was flying and began the climb. At the same time socal called the traffic and captain replied that we were climbing to an RA. Socal then cleared us to 4000 ft and the captain saw the traffic visually. He stated that it was a blue and white piper cherokee and that it had passed us 1000 ft laterally and 100 ft vertically. The captain stated he would report an near midair collision and advised socal approach of same.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 FLC HAS TCASII RA DURING DSCNT INTO SNA.
Narrative: SOCAL APCH HAD PLACED US ON A R DOWNWIND FOR ILS RWY 19R AT SNA. WE WERE AT 3000 FT, THE CLOUD BASES WERE ABOUT 200 FT ABOVE US. ABEAM SNAKE INTXN WE BEGAN TO WATCH A TCASII TARGET ABOUT 3 MI AHEAD AND TO THE L 800 FT ABOVE US. THE TARGET WAS WBOUND XING OUR NOSE L TO R AND DSNDING TO 3000 FT AS IT DID SO. WHEN THE TARGET REACHED A RELATIVE POS OF 1 O'CLOCK POS IT TURNED INTO US CAUSING AN RA TO CLB. I WAS FLYING AND BEGAN THE CLB. AT THE SAME TIME SOCAL CALLED THE TFC AND CAPT REPLIED THAT WE WERE CLBING TO AN RA. SOCAL THEN CLRED US TO 4000 FT AND THE CAPT SAW THE TFC VISUALLY. HE STATED THAT IT WAS A BLUE AND WHITE PIPER CHEROKEE AND THAT IT HAD PASSED US 1000 FT LATERALLY AND 100 FT VERTLY. THE CAPT STATED HE WOULD RPT AN NMAC AND ADVISED SOCAL APCH OF SAME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.