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Attributes | |
ACN | 563193 |
Time | |
Date | 200210 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : iad.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 60 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : iad.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2450 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 563193 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On oct/tue/02 at approximately XA00-XA30, I was acting as first officer/sic and PNF of an LJ60. We were #2 to take off on runway 19L at iad. The aircraft in front of us was cleared to take off. The controller then told us to be ready for an immediate takeoff after the next aircraft. The captain and PF then began to move toward the runway. I immediately told the captain that 'we were not cleared for the runway.' he responded back 'yes we were, he cleared us to go immediately behind this guy.' before I could think or do anything else, he had our airplane on the runway, and local was instructing a commercial aircraft to go around. The local controller called us on frequency and told us we were not cleared for the runway. Later, the captain received a message to contact dulles approach at which time he gave them his name and address. We were not cleared 'into position' or cleared for takeoff by the local controller, and I told the captain this. He chose to dismiss my appeal to stop. What could correct this situation? Options: if captain decides to utilize the second crew member (CRM), if captain has certificate revoked, if captain retires.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LEARJET 60 CAPT TAXIED INTO POS WHEN NOT CLRED CAUSING ANOTHER ACFT TO BE SENT AROUND.
Narrative: ON OCT/TUE/02 AT APPROX XA00-XA30, I WAS ACTING AS FO/SIC AND PNF OF AN LJ60. WE WERE #2 TO TAKE OFF ON RWY 19L AT IAD. THE ACFT IN FRONT OF US WAS CLRED TO TAKE OFF. THE CTLR THEN TOLD US TO BE READY FOR AN IMMEDIATE TKOF AFTER THE NEXT ACFT. THE CAPT AND PF THEN BEGAN TO MOVE TOWARD THE RWY. I IMMEDIATELY TOLD THE CAPT THAT 'WE WERE NOT CLRED FOR THE RWY.' HE RESPONDED BACK 'YES WE WERE, HE CLRED US TO GO IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THIS GUY.' BEFORE I COULD THINK OR DO ANYTHING ELSE, HE HAD OUR AIRPLANE ON THE RWY, AND LCL WAS INSTRUCTING A COMMERCIAL ACFT TO GO AROUND. THE LCL CTLR CALLED US ON FREQ AND TOLD US WE WERE NOT CLRED FOR THE RWY. LATER, THE CAPT RECEIVED A MESSAGE TO CONTACT DULLES APCH AT WHICH TIME HE GAVE THEM HIS NAME AND ADDRESS. WE WERE NOT CLRED 'INTO POS' OR CLRED FOR TKOF BY THE LCL CTLR, AND I TOLD THE CAPT THIS. HE CHOSE TO DISMISS MY APPEAL TO STOP. WHAT COULD CORRECT THIS SIT? OPTIONS: IF CAPT DECIDES TO UTILIZE THE SECOND CREW MEMBER (CRM), IF CAPT HAS CERTIFICATE REVOKED, IF CAPT RETIRES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.