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Attributes | |
ACN | 566136 |
Time | |
Date | 200211 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | BAe 125 Series 800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : las vegas cnav one |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 75 |
ASRS Report | 566136 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing out of las vegas, we filed the vegas 1 SID. During the radio set-up, the vegas 1 was entered into the FMS. We tried getting our clearance via pre departure clearance and were unable. The PNF picked it up via the radio. We were issued the acces departure, acces transition. Both of us completely missed the 'departure' portion of the clearance and focused on the acces transition, which one did appear on the vegas 1 SID. I had been inadvertently looking at the vegas 1 departure still. I thought I had the correct SID, and so did the other pilot. Upon departure, I flew the vegas 1, which is runway heading, 7000 ft, expect radar vectors. We received further clearance during the climb while on runway heading to 15000 ft. Around 13000 ft, ATC asked us if we had the traffic in sight. We responded yes. ATC then asked if we were turning or on the SID. Our response was 'we're on runway heading.' he commented that he never gave us that, and to turn left direct to one of the intxns on the SID. We asked for a heading until we got it set up. We both fully realized our error at this point. We guess that we were about 20 degrees off where the SID intersection was. There were no traffic deviations or evasive actions taken. I think a variety of factors allowed this to happen. I just recently changed flying environments after 10 yrs from izi to cpr. The FMS is still relatively new to me. I was comfortable with my flying partner and his familiarization of the vegas area and didn't question the departure procedure. Although I did watch him look at the FMS screen with a perplexed look, he didn't voice his doubts or questions out loud. To compound the issue, this was only our second leg together. I didn't know how to interpretation what I thought I saw on his face. I also had a nagging feeling as we climbed out that we should query ATC about our heading, but didn't follow through. To prevent this from occurring again, I will check and doublechk what departure is given. Checking to be sure the departure clearance title matches what we have in our box/hand, not just the name of an intersection or transition. I will use better CRM as well. Asking, 'why the look on your face?' having a better brief over the SID, and asking if you have any questions or doubts about what and where we're going, checking the FMS to be sure that it agrees with our clearance, and if there was the slightest doubt about anything, either clarify with clearance or ask ATC if in the air!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE PLANNED DEP WAS FLOWN FROM LAS VEGAS, NV, INSTEAD OF THE ONE ASSIGNED WHEN THE CLRNC WAS RECEIVED.
Narrative: DEPARTING OUT OF LAS VEGAS, WE FILED THE VEGAS 1 SID. DURING THE RADIO SET-UP, THE VEGAS 1 WAS ENTERED INTO THE FMS. WE TRIED GETTING OUR CLRNC VIA PDC AND WERE UNABLE. THE PNF PICKED IT UP VIA THE RADIO. WE WERE ISSUED THE ACCES DEP, ACCES TRANSITION. BOTH OF US COMPLETELY MISSED THE 'DEP' PORTION OF THE CLRNC AND FOCUSED ON THE ACCES TRANSITION, WHICH ONE DID APPEAR ON THE VEGAS 1 SID. I HAD BEEN INADVERTENTLY LOOKING AT THE VEGAS 1 DEP STILL. I THOUGHT I HAD THE CORRECT SID, AND SO DID THE OTHER PLT. UPON DEP, I FLEW THE VEGAS 1, WHICH IS RWY HDG, 7000 FT, EXPECT RADAR VECTORS. WE RECEIVED FURTHER CLRNC DURING THE CLB WHILE ON RWY HDG TO 15000 FT. AROUND 13000 FT, ATC ASKED US IF WE HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. WE RESPONDED YES. ATC THEN ASKED IF WE WERE TURNING OR ON THE SID. OUR RESPONSE WAS 'WE'RE ON RWY HDG.' HE COMMENTED THAT HE NEVER GAVE US THAT, AND TO TURN L DIRECT TO ONE OF THE INTXNS ON THE SID. WE ASKED FOR A HDG UNTIL WE GOT IT SET UP. WE BOTH FULLY REALIZED OUR ERROR AT THIS POINT. WE GUESS THAT WE WERE ABOUT 20 DEGS OFF WHERE THE SID INTXN WAS. THERE WERE NO TFC DEVS OR EVASIVE ACTIONS TAKEN. I THINK A VARIETY OF FACTORS ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. I JUST RECENTLY CHANGED FLYING ENVIRONMENTS AFTER 10 YRS FROM IZI TO CPR. THE FMS IS STILL RELATIVELY NEW TO ME. I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH MY FLYING PARTNER AND HIS FAMILIARIZATION OF THE VEGAS AREA AND DIDN'T QUESTION THE DEP PROC. ALTHOUGH I DID WATCH HIM LOOK AT THE FMS SCREEN WITH A PERPLEXED LOOK, HE DIDN'T VOICE HIS DOUBTS OR QUESTIONS OUT LOUD. TO COMPOUND THE ISSUE, THIS WAS ONLY OUR SECOND LEG TOGETHER. I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO INTERP WHAT I THOUGHT I SAW ON HIS FACE. I ALSO HAD A NAGGING FEELING AS WE CLBED OUT THAT WE SHOULD QUERY ATC ABOUT OUR HDG, BUT DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH. TO PREVENT THIS FROM OCCURRING AGAIN, I WILL CHK AND DOUBLECHK WHAT DEP IS GIVEN. CHKING TO BE SURE THE DEP CLRNC TITLE MATCHES WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR BOX/HAND, NOT JUST THE NAME OF AN INTXN OR TRANSITION. I WILL USE BETTER CRM AS WELL. ASKING, 'WHY THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE?' HAVING A BETTER BRIEF OVER THE SID, AND ASKING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DOUBTS ABOUT WHAT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, CHKING THE FMS TO BE SURE THAT IT AGREES WITH OUR CLRNC, AND IF THERE WAS THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT ABOUT ANYTHING, EITHER CLARIFY WITH CLRNC OR ASK ATC IF IN THE AIR!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.