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Attributes | |
ACN | 568773 |
Time | |
Date | 200212 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon tower : phl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 27r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : phl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 568773 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Cleared for ILS runway 27R phl, first officer flying, told to contact tower at speez LOM. Just as we were ready to switch to tower, got an RA to climb. Banner tow at veteran stadium below and to the right, set off TCASII. We initially followed RA, until we visually acquired other aircraft. We were able to then salvage approach. We reported RA to the final controller -- he said tower was responsible to advise us and that we should be talking to the tower. Area where banner tow was operating was just as we approached speez. Situation could have been avoided if final had pointed banner tow out or sent us to tower well before speez. Local controller advised us that the banner aircraft had us in sight and he was 'supposed' to stay north of the runway 26 centerline. That did not appear to be the case from our vantage point. We advised ATC after landing that it would be better if the final controller gave the advisory. This controller said he was supposed to, and he would take care of it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FLC ILS PHL RWY 27R EXPERIENCED TCASII RA WITH BANNER TOW ACFT.
Narrative: CLRED FOR ILS RWY 27R PHL, FO FLYING, TOLD TO CONTACT TWR AT SPEEZ LOM. JUST AS WE WERE READY TO SWITCH TO TWR, GOT AN RA TO CLB. BANNER TOW AT VETERAN STADIUM BELOW AND TO THE R, SET OFF TCASII. WE INITIALLY FOLLOWED RA, UNTIL WE VISUALLY ACQUIRED OTHER ACFT. WE WERE ABLE TO THEN SALVAGE APCH. WE RPTED RA TO THE FINAL CTLR -- HE SAID TWR WAS RESPONSIBLE TO ADVISE US AND THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING TO THE TWR. AREA WHERE BANNER TOW WAS OPERATING WAS JUST AS WE APCHED SPEEZ. SIT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF FINAL HAD POINTED BANNER TOW OUT OR SENT US TO TWR WELL BEFORE SPEEZ. LCL CTLR ADVISED US THAT THE BANNER ACFT HAD US IN SIGHT AND HE WAS 'SUPPOSED' TO STAY N OF THE RWY 26 CTRLINE. THAT DID NOT APPEAR TO BE THE CASE FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT. WE ADVISED ATC AFTER LNDG THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER IF THE FINAL CTLR GAVE THE ADVISORY. THIS CTLR SAID HE WAS SUPPOSED TO, AND HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.