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B717 flight crew during final approach, takes precautionary action to avoid a runway incursion at phnl.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 570150 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200301 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : hnl.airport |
| State Reference | HI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : hnl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B717 (Formerly MD-95) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : hnl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 570150 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Operating lny to hnl, visual approach to runway 26R at hnl. On short final, approximately 0.5 to 1.0 mi and 300-400 ft AGL, ATC cleared aircraft Y for takeoff on runway 22L. Aircraft Y was already rolling toward the intersection of runways 26R and 22L before we crossed the threshold of runway 26R. I reminded tower that we had been cleared for landing on runway 26R after he issued takeoff clearance to aircraft Y. Tower answered 'roger.' we elected to continue the landing, but adjusted descent to touchdown beyond the intersection of runways 26R and runway 22L. Our relatively higher ground speed carried us past the intersection prior to aircraft Y getting there. However, that fact was not immediately apparent from our perspective and we almost initiated a go around to ensure separation. Is this procedure accepted practice during runways 22/26 operations? If so, the safety margins are razor thin.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B717 FLT CREW DURING FINAL APCH, TAKES PRECAUTIONARY ACTION TO AVOID A RWY INCURSION AT PHNL.
Narrative: OPERATING LNY TO HNL, VISUAL APCH TO RWY 26R AT HNL. ON SHORT FINAL, APPROX 0.5 TO 1.0 MI AND 300-400 FT AGL, ATC CLRED ACFT Y FOR TKOF ON RWY 22L. ACFT Y WAS ALREADY ROLLING TOWARD THE INTXN OF RWYS 26R AND 22L BEFORE WE CROSSED THE THRESHOLD OF RWY 26R. I REMINDED TWR THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR LNDG ON RWY 26R AFTER HE ISSUED TKOF CLRNC TO ACFT Y. TWR ANSWERED 'ROGER.' WE ELECTED TO CONTINUE THE LNDG, BUT ADJUSTED DSCNT TO TOUCHDOWN BEYOND THE INTXN OF RWYS 26R AND RWY 22L. OUR RELATIVELY HIGHER GND SPD CARRIED US PAST THE INTXN PRIOR TO ACFT Y GETTING THERE. HOWEVER, THAT FACT WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY APPARENT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND WE ALMOST INITIATED A GAR TO ENSURE SEPARATION. IS THIS PROC ACCEPTED PRACTICE DURING RWYS 22/26 OPS? IF SO, THE SAFETY MARGINS ARE RAZOR THIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.