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An EMB120 flight crew crosses runway 30 on their taxi in, and the first officer, reporter, could not remember receiving a clearance to cross runway 30 from tower or ground at cys, wy.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 571723 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200301 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cys.airport |
| State Reference | WY |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Ice |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 1300 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 571723 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
After exiting runway 26 after the ILS approach, we switched to tower after landing with the guard frequency. Tower told us to monitor ground and asked our flight conditions. We replied with cloud bottoms and rime ice. As we taxied across the other runway (runway 30), they inquired about breaking action and cloud tops. After answering, we were on our ramp. Several hours later, I realized we taxied across runway 30 without specific clearance to do so. Tower knew where we were going, as did we. However, we did taxi across without clearance, because of our conversation with tower. Perhaps these reports should be given to ground and relayed to tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EMB120 FLT CREW CROSSES RWY 30 ON THEIR TAXI IN, AND THE FO, RPTR, COULD NOT REMEMBER RECEIVING A CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 30 FROM TWR OR GND AT CYS, WY.
Narrative: AFTER EXITING RWY 26 AFTER THE ILS APCH, WE SWITCHED TO TWR AFTER LNDG WITH THE GUARD FREQ. TWR TOLD US TO MONITOR GND AND ASKED OUR FLT CONDITIONS. WE REPLIED WITH CLOUD BOTTOMS AND RIME ICE. AS WE TAXIED ACROSS THE OTHER RWY (RWY 30), THEY INQUIRED ABOUT BREAKING ACTION AND CLOUD TOPS. AFTER ANSWERING, WE WERE ON OUR RAMP. SEVERAL HRS LATER, I REALIZED WE TAXIED ACROSS RWY 30 WITHOUT SPECIFIC CLRNC TO DO SO. TWR KNEW WHERE WE WERE GOING, AS DID WE. HOWEVER, WE DID TAXI ACROSS WITHOUT CLRNC, BECAUSE OF OUR CONVERSATION WITH TWR. PERHAPS THESE RPTS SHOULD BE GIVEN TO GND AND RELAYED TO TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.