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Attributes | |
ACN | 572126 |
Time | |
Date | 200301 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lgc.vortac |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 22500 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : la grange 1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 572126 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Miss Distance | vertical : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were flying the la grange 1 arrival to atl. ZTL cleared us to descend to FL290 with pilot discretion to FL240. Checked in with next atl sector and got clearance for 'cross tiroe intersection at 14000 ft.' I started descent from FL290 and was handed off to next sector. We checked in with 'descending to 14000 ft at tiroe.' controller then stated 'amendy our clearance to level at FL230.' I stopped at FL230. Approximately 2-3 min later, I descended from FL230 for 14000 ft at tiroe, and first officer called the descent. ZTL responded 'go back to FL230.' the lowest altitude I saw was FL225. We did get a TCASII TA on another aircraft at 1500 ft below us. I reversed the pitch and was level at FL230 in approximately 10 seconds. No heading changes or other calls were given by ZTL for any further separation. The remainder of flight was routine. Recommendation: when ATC amends an altitude descent restr (ie, tiroe at 14000 ft) with an intermediate level off (ie, FL230), then the controller should state 'amend your descent to level at FL230 and maintain FL230.' this will clearly delete any doubt about the previous instructions to cross tiroe at 14000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 CREW HAD AN ALTDEV IN ZTL CLASS A.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING THE LA GRANGE 1 ARR TO ATL. ZTL CLRED US TO DSND TO FL290 WITH PLT DISCRETION TO FL240. CHKED IN WITH NEXT ATL SECTOR AND GOT CLRNC FOR 'CROSS TIROE INTXN AT 14000 FT.' I STARTED DSCNT FROM FL290 AND WAS HANDED OFF TO NEXT SECTOR. WE CHKED IN WITH 'DSNDING TO 14000 FT AT TIROE.' CTLR THEN STATED 'AMENDY OUR CLRNC TO LEVEL AT FL230.' I STOPPED AT FL230. APPROX 2-3 MIN LATER, I DSNDED FROM FL230 FOR 14000 FT AT TIROE, AND FO CALLED THE DSCNT. ZTL RESPONDED 'GO BACK TO FL230.' THE LOWEST ALT I SAW WAS FL225. WE DID GET A TCASII TA ON ANOTHER ACFT AT 1500 FT BELOW US. I REVERSED THE PITCH AND WAS LEVEL AT FL230 IN APPROX 10 SECONDS. NO HDG CHANGES OR OTHER CALLS WERE GIVEN BY ZTL FOR ANY FURTHER SEPARATION. THE REMAINDER OF FLT WAS ROUTINE. RECOMMENDATION: WHEN ATC AMENDS AN ALT DSCNT RESTR (IE, TIROE AT 14000 FT) WITH AN INTERMEDIATE LEVEL OFF (IE, FL230), THEN THE CTLR SHOULD STATE 'AMEND YOUR DSCNT TO LEVEL AT FL230 AND MAINTAIN FL230.' THIS WILL CLRLY DELETE ANY DOUBT ABOUT THE PREVIOUS INSTRUCTIONS TO CROSS TIROE AT 14000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.