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Flight crew of MD80 assigned maintenance ferry flight, but not provided with data appropriate for operations with inoperative antiskid system.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 573822 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200302 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mynn.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-88 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 1400 |
| ASRS Report | 573822 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Factors | |
| Maintenance | contributing factor : engineering procedure contributing factor : manuals performance deficiency : non compliance with legal requirements |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Maintenance Human Performance |
Narrative:
The captain and I were sent to nassau to ferry an MD88 back to pie. The aircraft had an antiskid problem. The antiskid must work on an MD80 series aircraft. It cannot be MEL'ed. I received the ferry permit from maintenance control, and it looked ok. We flew to nassau and got on board the MD88. It was then that I realized that there was no procedure for taking off with no antiskid. I talked to maintenance and the general manager and they said that because we were on a ferry permit, we didn't need any and that there was no takeoff performance data for an MD80 with antiskid inoperative. I said ok. I knew that we couldn't use autobrakes, and if we didn't use autobrakes that we couldn't use the autospoilers for takeoff. It wasn't until we got back to pie that I started thinking about it. I'm not sure that we were legal to take the airplane, even though it was on a ferry flight, without a procedure and appropriate takeoff data.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MD80 ASSIGNED MAINT FERRY FLT, BUT NOT PROVIDED WITH DATA APPROPRIATE FOR OPS WITH INOP ANTISKID SYS.
Narrative: THE CAPT AND I WERE SENT TO NASSAU TO FERRY AN MD88 BACK TO PIE. THE ACFT HAD AN ANTISKID PROB. THE ANTISKID MUST WORK ON AN MD80 SERIES ACFT. IT CANNOT BE MEL'ED. I RECEIVED THE FERRY PERMIT FROM MAINT CTL, AND IT LOOKED OK. WE FLEW TO NASSAU AND GOT ON BOARD THE MD88. IT WAS THEN THAT I REALIZED THAT THERE WAS NO PROC FOR TAKING OFF WITH NO ANTISKID. I TALKED TO MAINT AND THE GENERAL MGR AND THEY SAID THAT BECAUSE WE WERE ON A FERRY PERMIT, WE DIDN'T NEED ANY AND THAT THERE WAS NO TKOF PERFORMANCE DATA FOR AN MD80 WITH ANTISKID INOP. I SAID OK. I KNEW THAT WE COULDN'T USE AUTOBRAKES, AND IF WE DIDN'T USE AUTOBRAKES THAT WE COULDN'T USE THE AUTOSPOILERS FOR TKOF. IT WASN'T UNTIL WE GOT BACK TO PIE THAT I STARTED THINKING ABOUT IT. I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WERE LEGAL TO TAKE THE AIRPLANE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ON A FERRY FLT, WITHOUT A PROC AND APPROPRIATE TKOF DATA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.