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S80 captain overrides first officer due to coordination breakdown prior to departure when executing the las wyldd SID as challenged by L30 departure controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 574259 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200302 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : wildd 2 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 574259 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 574548 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : overrode automation |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departed las on runway 25R. Original filed departure clearance was hoovr 1 and revised departure clearance was wyldd 2. I planned on flying the wyldd 2 and started my turn towards idale with captain's confirmation. He said to maintain runway heading (255 degrees as per the hoovr 1). At 1-2 mi past the turn, departure asked us if we had started the turn towards idale for the wyldd 2. The captain said no, we were on runway heading as he had it in his mind that we were doing the hoovr 1. Departure then gave us a left turn to 180 degrees and proceeded to get us back on the wyldd 2. I don't believe we violated any airspace, but this could have been prevented by better communication in the cockpit and better listening by me to the captain's departure brief. I will definitely make sure that we are on the same correct page in the future. Supplemental information from acn 574548: I, as captain, briefed for the hoover 1 departure. I should have checked the pre departure clearance, because it was changed to the wyldd RNAV 2. The copilot was aware of the change and had reprogrammed the departure in the gfms. I saw him doing this, but I was distraction and it never really sunk in. I realized my mistake, and departure vectored us on our way. I failed to read the pre departure clearance, failed in my briefing to name the departure to be flown, and failed to doublechk the gfms to see that it agreed with departure I thought we were on.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: S80 CAPT OVERRIDES FO DUE TO COORD BREAKDOWN PRIOR TO DEP WHEN EXECUTING THE LAS WYLDD SID AS CHALLENGED BY L30 DEP CTLR.
Narrative: DEPARTED LAS ON RWY 25R. ORIGINAL FILED DEP CLRNC WAS HOOVR 1 AND REVISED DEP CLRNC WAS WYLDD 2. I PLANNED ON FLYING THE WYLDD 2 AND STARTED MY TURN TOWARDS IDALE WITH CAPT'S CONFIRMATION. HE SAID TO MAINTAIN RWY HDG (255 DEGS AS PER THE HOOVR 1). AT 1-2 MI PAST THE TURN, DEP ASKED US IF WE HAD STARTED THE TURN TOWARDS IDALE FOR THE WYLDD 2. THE CAPT SAID NO, WE WERE ON RWY HDG AS HE HAD IT IN HIS MIND THAT WE WERE DOING THE HOOVR 1. DEP THEN GAVE US A L TURN TO 180 DEGS AND PROCEEDED TO GET US BACK ON THE WYLDD 2. I DON'T BELIEVE WE VIOLATED ANY AIRSPACE, BUT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY BETTER COM IN THE COCKPIT AND BETTER LISTENING BY ME TO THE CAPT'S DEP BRIEF. I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME CORRECT PAGE IN THE FUTURE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 574548: I, AS CAPT, BRIEFED FOR THE HOOVER 1 DEP. I SHOULD HAVE CHKED THE PDC, BECAUSE IT WAS CHANGED TO THE WYLDD RNAV 2. THE COPLT WAS AWARE OF THE CHANGE AND HAD REPROGRAMMED THE DEP IN THE GFMS. I SAW HIM DOING THIS, BUT I WAS DISTR AND IT NEVER REALLY SUNK IN. I REALIZED MY MISTAKE, AND DEP VECTORED US ON OUR WAY. I FAILED TO READ THE PDC, FAILED IN MY BRIEFING TO NAME THE DEP TO BE FLOWN, AND FAILED TO DOUBLECHK THE GFMS TO SEE THAT IT AGREED WITH DEP I THOUGHT WE WERE ON.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.