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A DC9 flight crew accidentally crosses an obscured runway hold line.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 575994 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200303 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mke.airport |
| State Reference | WI |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sdl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mke.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 485 |
| ASRS Report | 575994 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ground encounters other incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Chart Or Publication Airport Weather ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | markings : mke.airport signage : mke.airport |
| Chart | airport : mke.airport |
Narrative:
Captain was taxiing to runway 25L in mke via runway 31. Tower advised we were to follow company who was on taxiway M. We acknowledged. We started to 'make turn' from runway 31 towards runway 25L when we noticed there was no hold line. We stopped and noticed blue taxiway lights perpendicular to us. We saw company to our right and let them pass us onto runway . Tower then had a dornier 328 pass us for departure. As we were cleared to taxi into position and hold, I looked back at runway 31 and saw a partially obscured by snow hold line. The tower gave us clearance as we were (captain and I) querying whether to contact tower. We did not block taxiway M and were not on runway 25L. We noted this hold line is not depicted on airport diagram.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC9 FLT CREW ACCIDENTALLY CROSSES AN OBSCURED RWY HOLD LINE.
Narrative: CAPT WAS TAXIING TO RWY 25L IN MKE VIA RWY 31. TWR ADVISED WE WERE TO FOLLOW COMPANY WHO WAS ON TXWY M. WE ACKNOWLEDGED. WE STARTED TO 'MAKE TURN' FROM RWY 31 TOWARDS RWY 25L WHEN WE NOTICED THERE WAS NO HOLD LINE. WE STOPPED AND NOTICED BLUE TXWY LIGHTS PERPENDICULAR TO US. WE SAW COMPANY TO OUR R AND LET THEM PASS US ONTO RWY . TWR THEN HAD A DORNIER 328 PASS US FOR DEP. AS WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD, I LOOKED BACK AT RWY 31 AND SAW A PARTIALLY OBSCURED BY SNOW HOLD LINE. THE TWR GAVE US CLRNC AS WE WERE (CAPT AND I) QUERYING WHETHER TO CONTACT TWR. WE DID NOT BLOCK TXWY M AND WERE NOT ON RWY 25L. WE NOTED THIS HOLD LINE IS NOT DEPICTED ON ARPT DIAGRAM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.