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Attributes | |
ACN | 576000 |
Time | |
Date | 200303 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sdl.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 32.4 flight time total : 125 flight time type : 67.6 |
ASRS Report | 576000 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : sdl.tower |
Narrative:
Problem arose after landing at scottsdale and being handed off to ground. Traffic, both air and ground, was very heavy. After touchdown, I was advised by tower 'exit runway soonest ramp, to clear for departing traffic. Taxi to ramp and monitor ground 121.6.' there were 2 planes in the pattern behind me and a private jet waiting to depart. I exited runway 21 on taxiway A7. As I turned onto the common taxiway off taxiway A7, I had 121.6 already on the radio. As my nose reached the common taxiway, I was shouted at by ground that I had no clearance to taxi. I requested clearance to taxi with 'progressive' to the GA ramp for parking. I was told by ground to get off his taxiway as soon as possible and contact ground 122.95 for instructions. This I did. After parking, I turned on a handheld navigation/communication and listened to the tower. They repeatedly gave instructions to landing pilots to 'taxi to park, monitor ground on point six.' I have flown many class C and D arrs and have always received a 'hold short' call if taxiing was unsafe. I did not receive a hold short instruction at scottsdale and suggest the tower change their wording on radio instruction to landing pilots. I felt my judgement was correct given the radio message received.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA32 PLT HAD UNPROFESSIONAL GND CTLR HANDLING AT SDL.
Narrative: PROB AROSE AFTER LNDG AT SCOTTSDALE AND BEING HANDED OFF TO GND. TFC, BOTH AIR AND GND, WAS VERY HVY. AFTER TOUCHDOWN, I WAS ADVISED BY TWR 'EXIT RWY SOONEST RAMP, TO CLR FOR DEPARTING TFC. TAXI TO RAMP AND MONITOR GND 121.6.' THERE WERE 2 PLANES IN THE PATTERN BEHIND ME AND A PVT JET WAITING TO DEPART. I EXITED RWY 21 ON TXWY A7. AS I TURNED ONTO THE COMMON TXWY OFF TXWY A7, I HAD 121.6 ALREADY ON THE RADIO. AS MY NOSE REACHED THE COMMON TXWY, I WAS SHOUTED AT BY GND THAT I HAD NO CLRNC TO TAXI. I REQUESTED CLRNC TO TAXI WITH 'PROGRESSIVE' TO THE GA RAMP FOR PARKING. I WAS TOLD BY GND TO GET OFF HIS TXWY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND CONTACT GND 122.95 FOR INSTRUCTIONS. THIS I DID. AFTER PARKING, I TURNED ON A HANDHELD NAV/COM AND LISTENED TO THE TWR. THEY REPEATEDLY GAVE INSTRUCTIONS TO LNDG PLTS TO 'TAXI TO PARK, MONITOR GND ON POINT SIX.' I HAVE FLOWN MANY CLASS C AND D ARRS AND HAVE ALWAYS RECEIVED A 'HOLD SHORT' CALL IF TAXIING WAS UNSAFE. I DID NOT RECEIVE A HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTION AT SCOTTSDALE AND SUGGEST THE TWR CHANGE THEIR WORDING ON RADIO INSTRUCTION TO LNDG PLTS. I FELT MY JUDGEMENT WAS CORRECT GIVEN THE RADIO MESSAGE RECEIVED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.