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Attributes | |
ACN | 576208 |
Time | |
Date | 200303 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : atl.vortac |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon tower : atl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 31 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : atlanta 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 4400 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 576208 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
Flight out of atl to bna. I got the clearance (lots of background noise/voices). Cleared 'atlanta 5, 10000, squawk code, north 1 departure.' per atlanta 5 departure instructions, only repeated squawk code and north 1 departure. Also, told the clearance person (a man) about the background noise. He answered with a little sarcasm 'well, your readback is correct.' on the climb out, about 4000 ft, we received instructions to climb 10000 ft. I'm, therefore, not sure anymore if the initial clearance (on the ground) was 4000 ft or 10000 ft. I know atl is very busy, but I think everyone should be required to read back the entire clearance, not just the squawk code and departure vector.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING CLRNC READBACK PROC.
Narrative: FLT OUT OF ATL TO BNA. I GOT THE CLRNC (LOTS OF BACKGROUND NOISE/VOICES). CLRED 'ATLANTA 5, 10000, SQUAWK CODE, NORTH 1 DEP.' PER ATLANTA 5 DEP INSTRUCTIONS, ONLY REPEATED SQUAWK CODE AND N 1 DEP. ALSO, TOLD THE CLRNC PERSON (A MAN) ABOUT THE BACKGROUND NOISE. HE ANSWERED WITH A LITTLE SARCASM 'WELL, YOUR READBACK IS CORRECT.' ON THE CLBOUT, ABOUT 4000 FT, WE RECEIVED INSTRUCTIONS TO CLB 10000 FT. I'M, THEREFORE, NOT SURE ANYMORE IF THE INITIAL CLRNC (ON THE GND) WAS 4000 FT OR 10000 FT. I KNOW ATL IS VERY BUSY, BUT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO READ BACK THE ENTIRE CLRNC, NOT JUST THE SQUAWK CODE AND DEP VECTOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.