37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 576353 |
Time | |
Date | 200303 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pbi.tracon |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pbi.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 9l other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pbi.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Dassault-Breguet Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 576353 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Coming in on arrival, descent clearance was late despite our requests earlier. Caught up at zzzzz intersection, then final controller held us at 4000-5000 ft within mi of FAF at rubin intersection (gsi 1900+ ft). Then he wanted us to hold 160 KTS to marker. We said unable, and configured for landing to have a chance at meeting stabilized approach criteria. As it is, we ended up 3 mi and less behind a falcon jet, receiving landing clearance on very short final. Controller's apparent obsession with getting other aircraft into airport tremendously increased our workload to get a stabilized approach. Observing airport operations on subsequent departure, believe airport ATC is at near saturation level.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 LNDG PBI RPTED POOR HANDLING BY ATC.
Narrative: COMING IN ON ARR, DSCNT CLRNC WAS LATE DESPITE OUR REQUESTS EARLIER. CAUGHT UP AT ZZZZZ INTXN, THEN FINAL CTLR HELD US AT 4000-5000 FT WITHIN MI OF FAF AT RUBIN INTXN (GSI 1900+ FT). THEN HE WANTED US TO HOLD 160 KTS TO MARKER. WE SAID UNABLE, AND CONFIGURED FOR LNDG TO HAVE A CHANCE AT MEETING STABILIZED APCH CRITERIA. AS IT IS, WE ENDED UP 3 MI AND LESS BEHIND A FALCON JET, RECEIVING LNDG CLRNC ON VERY SHORT FINAL. CTLR'S APPARENT OBSESSION WITH GETTING OTHER ACFT INTO ARPT TREMENDOUSLY INCREASED OUR WORKLOAD TO GET A STABILIZED APCH. OBSERVING ARPT OPS ON SUBSEQUENT DEP, BELIEVE ARPT ATC IS AT NEAR SATURATION LEVEL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.