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Attributes | |
ACN | 576473 |
Time | |
Date | 200303 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hnl.airport |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 576473 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft level at 10000 ft MSL, handed off to hnl approach, assigned heading and descent to 8000 ft. Acknowledged clearance with 'leaving one zero thousand for eight thousand.' while passing 8600 ft, ATC called 'air carrier heavy, I did not tell you to descend to 8000 ft yet but since you started, level off at eight.' no conflicting aircraft were on TCASII. Contributing factors: 1) this is a point where aircraft are usually cleared to 8000 ft and I was expecting this clearance. 2) controller sounded rushed and overworked. Was most likely at end of shift, near XA30 local time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC10 LNDG HNL BEGINS DSCNT WITHOUT ATC APPROVAL.
Narrative: ACFT LEVEL AT 10000 FT MSL, HANDED OFF TO HNL APCH, ASSIGNED HDG AND DSCNT TO 8000 FT. ACKNOWLEDGED CLRNC WITH 'LEAVING ONE ZERO THOUSAND FOR EIGHT THOUSAND.' WHILE PASSING 8600 FT, ATC CALLED 'ACR HVY, I DID NOT TELL YOU TO DSND TO 8000 FT YET BUT SINCE YOU STARTED, LEVEL OFF AT EIGHT.' NO CONFLICTING ACFT WERE ON TCASII. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 1) THIS IS A POINT WHERE ACFT ARE USUALLY CLRED TO 8000 FT AND I WAS EXPECTING THIS CLRNC. 2) CTLR SOUNDED RUSHED AND OVERWORKED. WAS MOST LIKELY AT END OF SHIFT, NEAR XA30 LCL TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.