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Attributes | |
ACN | 576622 |
Time | |
Date | 200303 |
Day | Sat |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bna.tracon |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bna.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Embraer Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : hehaw 4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 576622 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
During descent and arrival into nashville, we received a clearance to descend to 10000 ft. This was heard by both crew members and repeated back to ATC. Upon reaching 10000 ft, ATC asked us to say our altitude. I responded 10000 ft. The controller stated that we were assigned 11000 ft. When I told the controller that we were given 10000 ft and that I read that altitude back to her, she said that she was sorry if she missed the readback and that the hehaw 4 arrival had recently been changed to 11000 ft. Both the first officer's and my approach plates showed 10000 ft to be the crossing altitude at the hehaw intersection. I hope any future confusion can be avoided concerning this arrival procedure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMJ LNDG BNA EXPERIENCED CONFUSION WITH ATC REGARDING ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: DURING DSCNT AND ARR INTO NASHVILLE, WE RECEIVED A CLRNC TO DSND TO 10000 FT. THIS WAS HEARD BY BOTH CREW MEMBERS AND REPEATED BACK TO ATC. UPON REACHING 10000 FT, ATC ASKED US TO SAY OUR ALT. I RESPONDED 10000 FT. THE CTLR STATED THAT WE WERE ASSIGNED 11000 FT. WHEN I TOLD THE CTLR THAT WE WERE GIVEN 10000 FT AND THAT I READ THAT ALT BACK TO HER, SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS SORRY IF SHE MISSED THE READBACK AND THAT THE HEHAW 4 ARR HAD RECENTLY BEEN CHANGED TO 11000 FT. BOTH THE FO'S AND MY APCH PLATES SHOWED 10000 FT TO BE THE XING ALT AT THE HEHAW INTXN. I HOPE ANY FUTURE CONFUSION CAN BE AVOIDED CONCERNING THIS ARR PROC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.