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Attributes | |
ACN | 577980 |
Time | |
Date | 200303 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence Windshear |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : cno.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 400 flight time total : 6700 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 577980 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cno tower asked me to call socal for possible pilot deviation. Apparently they thought I had violated disneyland's tfr. I was near disneyland but at 3000 ft and on a squawk code with class C services out of sna. We departure sna 330 heading climbing 2400 ft requested 3000 ft for ajo. Socal approved 3000 ft. Just west of corona pass, socal terminated services, squawk 1200. Landing ajo, on ground approximately 30 min. Departure downwind over top for cno. Touch and go at cno. Student pilot was flying, I was in right seat. Returned to sna and called.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 TRAINING INSTRUCTOR QUESTIONS SCT ACCUSATION THAT THEY VIOLATED DISNEYLAND TFR AFTER RECEIVING TFC ADVISORIES THAT AUTHORIZED PLT NAV TO CROSS THE DISNEYLAND TFR AT 3000 FT WHILE UNDER SCT CTL.
Narrative: CNO TWR ASKED ME TO CALL SOCAL FOR POSSIBLE PLT DEVIATION. APPARENTLY THEY THOUGHT I HAD VIOLATED DISNEYLAND'S TFR. I WAS NEAR DISNEYLAND BUT AT 3000 FT AND ON A SQUAWK CODE WITH CLASS C SERVICES OUT OF SNA. WE DEP SNA 330 HDG CLBING 2400 FT REQUESTED 3000 FT FOR AJO. SOCAL APPROVED 3000 FT. JUST W OF CORONA PASS, SOCAL TERMINATED SERVICES, SQUAWK 1200. LNDG AJO, ON GND APPROX 30 MIN. DEP DOWNWIND OVER TOP FOR CNO. TOUCH AND GO AT CNO. STUDENT PLT WAS FLYING, I WAS IN R SEAT. RETURNED TO SNA AND CALLED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.