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Attributes | |
ACN | 578198 |
Time | |
Date | 200304 |
Day | Thu |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : crp.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : crp.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : crp.tracon |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 578198 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Near miss. We were descending into crp. As usual, we had been kept high, and had to make a rapid descent. When switched to approach, we were cleared down to 2000 ft, and then asked to expedite our descent. As we passed 8500 ft, the controller told us to level at 9000 ft. We told him we were already through 9000 ft, and then he called a navy flight, and asked him if he could see us. We were in between layers with build-up and scattered clouds between. He said he could see us, and the controller told him to maintain visual separation. We saw him on TCASII, and his altitude was the same as ours since we had started to level off. We looked out and acquired the navy aircraft, and he was already initiating a hard right turn, approximately 60 degree bank or more. We began a right turn away, and received a TCASII RA to descend. We continued to descend until clear of conflict, and then called the controller and asked him what altitude he wanted us to go to. He told us to continue down to 2000 ft. The other aircraft came within 1/4 mi or less, and would have been very close had the navy pilot not initiated an aggressive maneuver. This is a problem that could recur often. Center keeps us high to clear houston traffic and then slam-dunks us, making the approach more difficult than necessary.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB145 CREW AND A NAVY ACFT HAD LESS THAN LEGAL SEPARATION IN CRP CLASS E.
Narrative: NEAR MISS. WE WERE DSNDING INTO CRP. AS USUAL, WE HAD BEEN KEPT HIGH, AND HAD TO MAKE A RAPID DSCNT. WHEN SWITCHED TO APCH, WE WERE CLRED DOWN TO 2000 FT, AND THEN ASKED TO EXPEDITE OUR DSCNT. AS WE PASSED 8500 FT, THE CTLR TOLD US TO LEVEL AT 9000 FT. WE TOLD HIM WE WERE ALREADY THROUGH 9000 FT, AND THEN HE CALLED A NAVY FLT, AND ASKED HIM IF HE COULD SEE US. WE WERE IN BTWN LAYERS WITH BUILD-UP AND SCATTERED CLOUDS BTWN. HE SAID HE COULD SEE US, AND THE CTLR TOLD HIM TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. WE SAW HIM ON TCASII, AND HIS ALT WAS THE SAME AS OURS SINCE WE HAD STARTED TO LEVEL OFF. WE LOOKED OUT AND ACQUIRED THE NAVY ACFT, AND HE WAS ALREADY INITIATING A HARD R TURN, APPROX 60 DEG BANK OR MORE. WE BEGAN A R TURN AWAY, AND RECEIVED A TCASII RA TO DSND. WE CONTINUED TO DSND UNTIL CLR OF CONFLICT, AND THEN CALLED THE CTLR AND ASKED HIM WHAT ALT HE WANTED US TO GO TO. HE TOLD US TO CONTINUE DOWN TO 2000 FT. THE OTHER ACFT CAME WITHIN 1/4 MI OR LESS, AND WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY CLOSE HAD THE NAVY PLT NOT INITIATED AN AGGRESSIVE MANEUVER. THIS IS A PROB THAT COULD RECUR OFTEN. CTR KEEPS US HIGH TO CLR HOUSTON TFC AND THEN SLAM-DUNKS US, MAKING THE APCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN NECESSARY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.