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Attributes | |
ACN | 578288 |
Time | |
Date | 200304 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ste.airport |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl single value : 2800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11100 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 578288 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA Airspace Structure Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Situations | |
Chart | approach : vor dme or gps rwys |
Narrative:
I requested the GPS 03 approach to ste via direct pibow intersection for the 10 DME arc. The controller was unsure if I wanted pibow or piboy intersection for the approach. The similarity in sound and spelling of these two fixes are confusing and a prescription for disaster. One of the fixes must be renamed. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter advised that, notwithstanding the fact that these fixes are not to be used in ATC communication that the ZMP controller was aware of them and only needed confirmation as to which of the two was desired. Reporter recalled that ZMP controller stated 'oh yeah, there it is' and then cleared them to the fix and for the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR ADVISES SIMILAR SPELLING AND SOUNDS OF TWO IAF WAYPOINTS, PIBOY AND PIBOW, ARE CONFUSING AND COULD CAUSE CLRNC AMBIGUITIES AND DEVIATIONS.
Narrative: I REQUESTED THE GPS 03 APCH TO STE VIA DIRECT PIBOW INTXN FOR THE 10 DME ARC. THE CTLR WAS UNSURE IF I WANTED PIBOW OR PIBOY INTXN FOR THE APCH. THE SIMILARITY IN SOUND AND SPELLING OF THESE TWO FIXES ARE CONFUSING AND A PRESCRIPTION FOR DISASTER. ONE OF THE FIXES MUST BE RENAMED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR ADVISED THAT, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THESE FIXES ARE NOT TO BE USED IN ATC COM THAT THE ZMP CTLR WAS AWARE OF THEM AND ONLY NEEDED CONFIRMATION AS TO WHICH OF THE TWO WAS DESIRED. RPTR RECALLED THAT ZMP CTLR STATED 'OH YEAH, THERE IT IS' AND THEN CLRED THEM TO THE FIX AND FOR THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.