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Attributes | |
ACN | 578787 |
Time | |
Date | 200304 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea.airport |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sea.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival star : husky |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sea.tower |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 578787 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Den-sea. Husky visual approach, runway 16L, sea. Approach control called traffic, probably in boeing field traffic pattern and also an MD80 ahead side-stepping from runway 16R to runway 16L. Earlier a dash 8 was told to maintain visual separation, probably from us. Inside FAF (dglas), fully configured for landing, we got a climb RA. We executed a go around. When tower switched us back to approach control, the controller stated that it was pretty stupid to go around for traffic he had called out to us. First of all we don't think he called the dash 8 to us and second if the dash 8 pulled up on us from behind and sets off the RA we have no choice but to go around. Then instead of vectoring us for another approach he gave us a last second clearance for the bay visual which we were not familiar with, and got more upset with our turn to final. I wish I had refused the visual approach clearance, but the controller certainly did not enhance safety in this operation. Numerous deplaning passenger, who were listening on channel 9, commented on the 'jerk with an attitude' controller and how polite I was. His supervisor called at the gate to apologize.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT ON A VISUAL APCH TO SEA EXPERIENCED TCASII RA WITH OTHER LNDG TFC.
Narrative: DEN-SEA. HUSKY VISUAL APCH, RWY 16L, SEA. APCH CTL CALLED TFC, PROBABLY IN BOEING FIELD TFC PATTERN AND ALSO AN MD80 AHEAD SIDE-STEPPING FROM RWY 16R TO RWY 16L. EARLIER A DASH 8 WAS TOLD TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION, PROBABLY FROM US. INSIDE FAF (DGLAS), FULLY CONFIGURED FOR LNDG, WE GOT A CLB RA. WE EXECUTED A GAR. WHEN TWR SWITCHED US BACK TO APCH CTL, THE CTLR STATED THAT IT WAS PRETTY STUPID TO GO AROUND FOR TFC HE HAD CALLED OUT TO US. FIRST OF ALL WE DON'T THINK HE CALLED THE DASH 8 TO US AND SECOND IF THE DASH 8 PULLED UP ON US FROM BEHIND AND SETS OFF THE RA WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO GO AROUND. THEN INSTEAD OF VECTORING US FOR ANOTHER APCH HE GAVE US A LAST SECOND CLRNC FOR THE BAY VISUAL WHICH WE WERE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, AND GOT MORE UPSET WITH OUR TURN TO FINAL. I WISH I HAD REFUSED THE VISUAL APCH CLRNC, BUT THE CTLR CERTAINLY DID NOT ENHANCE SAFETY IN THIS OP. NUMEROUS DEPLANING PAX, WHO WERE LISTENING ON CHANNEL 9, COMMENTED ON THE 'JERK WITH AN ATTITUDE' CTLR AND HOW POLITE I WAS. HIS SUPVR CALLED AT THE GATE TO APOLOGIZE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.