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Attributes | |
ACN | 579114 |
Time | |
Date | 200304 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lal.vortac |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-30 Twin Comanche |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 670 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 579114 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other other : person 3 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Environmental Factor FAA Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airspace Structure | temporary use : dworld |
Narrative:
I was on a flight checking out a pilot in a new twin comanche aircraft he had purchased. We were en route from barstow (bow) to sanford (fl). No contact was made with ATC as it was his first flight in type and I didn't want to be concerned with altitude hold. I was aware of the disney tfr. I dialed in the 030 degree radial from the lal VOR to keep us clear of the tfr. I later moved it to 027 degrees. However, we were later informed that we had flown through it. I was sure we were clear. I have flown over disney before on IFR plans. This time we were not in contact with ATC, so we were visually navigating. Unfamiliarity with the disney area was a contributing factor. We relied on the epcot ball and estimated we were 10 to 12 miles west of it. Next time I go anywhere near disney I will be talking with ATC again. It is too easy to get distracted and fly into these tfrs. It is also easy to assure you are clear of 'disney' by keeping a distance from a prominent 'disney' landmark and find that this is not sufficient.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF VFR PA30 INADVERTENTLY ENTERED DISNEYWORLD TFR.
Narrative: I WAS ON A FLT CHKING OUT A PLT IN A NEW TWIN COMANCHE ACFT HE HAD PURCHASED. WE WERE ENRTE FROM BARSTOW (BOW) TO SANFORD (FL). NO CONTACT WAS MADE WITH ATC AS IT WAS HIS FIRST FLT IN TYPE AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BE CONCERNED WITH ALT HOLD. I WAS AWARE OF THE DISNEY TFR. I DIALED IN THE 030 DEG RADIAL FROM THE LAL VOR TO KEEP US CLR OF THE TFR. I LATER MOVED IT TO 027 DEGS. HOWEVER, WE WERE LATER INFORMED THAT WE HAD FLOWN THROUGH IT. I WAS SURE WE WERE CLR. I HAVE FLOWN OVER DISNEY BEFORE ON IFR PLANS. THIS TIME WE WERE NOT IN CONTACT WITH ATC, SO WE WERE VISUALLY NAVIGATING. UNFAMILIARITY WITH THE DISNEY AREA WAS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. WE RELIED ON THE EPCOT BALL AND ESTIMATED WE WERE 10 TO 12 MILES W OF IT. NEXT TIME I GO ANYWHERE NEAR DISNEY I WILL BE TALKING WITH ATC AGAIN. IT IS TOO EASY TO GET DISTRACTED AND FLY INTO THESE TFRS. IT IS ALSO EASY TO ASSURE YOU ARE CLR OF 'DISNEY' BY KEEPING A DISTANCE FROM A PROMINENT 'DISNEY' LANDMARK AND FIND THAT THIS IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.