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Attributes | |
ACN | 579467 |
Time | |
Date | 200304 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : e60.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl single value : 14500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab.artcc |
Operator | Other |
Make Model Name | Shorts SC7 Skyvan 3/3M |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : 105 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 33 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 579467 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : skydivers non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After dropping skydivers, I called ZAB in the descent and he reported traffic 1/4 mi east of the airport eastbound. A discussion followed after the pilot of the eastbound bonanza reported skydivers above his altitude, 1/4 mi at his 12 O'clock position. ZAB questioned whether I had heard his traffic reports. I replied I had overheard him working traffic with another jump aircraft. ZAB stated that he called both jump aircraft. I never replied to any traffic report and only overheard conversation that I believed specific to the other jump aircraft's position. ZAB did not report any specific traffic to me when I made my 2 min call. Remedy: restrict airspace around intense activity drop zones in the interest of public safety. Require readback to verify who is actually participating in your conversation. I believe this is already in place. I'm not trying to point a finger at a controller or another pilot here. I believe all parties involved share some percentage of responsibility. The point is: pilots and controllers are people who deal with variable workloads. High workload and division of attention should not subject life and property to risk.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PREMATURE RELEASE OF SKYDIVERS FROM A SHORTS SC7 WHOSE 'LOAD' FALLS ONE QUARTER MI IN FRONT AND ABOVE A BONANZA TRANSITING THE CLASS E AIRSPACE NEAR E60, AZ.
Narrative: AFTER DROPPING SKYDIVERS, I CALLED ZAB IN THE DSCNT AND HE RPTED TFC 1/4 MI E OF THE ARPT EBOUND. A DISCUSSION FOLLOWED AFTER THE PLT OF THE EBOUND BONANZA RPTED SKYDIVERS ABOVE HIS ALT, 1/4 MI AT HIS 12 O'CLOCK POS. ZAB QUESTIONED WHETHER I HAD HEARD HIS TFC RPTS. I REPLIED I HAD OVERHEARD HIM WORKING TFC WITH ANOTHER JUMP ACFT. ZAB STATED THAT HE CALLED BOTH JUMP ACFT. I NEVER REPLIED TO ANY TFC RPT AND ONLY OVERHEARD CONVERSATION THAT I BELIEVED SPECIFIC TO THE OTHER JUMP ACFT'S POS. ZAB DID NOT RPT ANY SPECIFIC TFC TO ME WHEN I MADE MY 2 MIN CALL. REMEDY: RESTRICT AIRSPACE AROUND INTENSE ACTIVITY DROP ZONES IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY. REQUIRE READBACK TO VERIFY WHO IS ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING IN YOUR CONVERSATION. I BELIEVE THIS IS ALREADY IN PLACE. I'M NOT TRYING TO POINT A FINGER AT A CTLR OR ANOTHER PLT HERE. I BELIEVE ALL PARTIES INVOLVED SHARE SOME PERCENTAGE OF RESPONSIBILITY. THE POINT IS: PLTS AND CTLRS ARE PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH VARIABLE WORKLOADS. HIGH WORKLOAD AND DIVISION OF ATTN SHOULD NOT SUBJECT LIFE AND PROPERTY TO RISK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.