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Attributes | |
ACN | 579829 |
Time | |
Date | 200304 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fll.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8800 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia.tracon tower : sna.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 579829 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 579830 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar/mode c aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
At 8800 ft climbing to 15000 ft, got TCASII RA to descend, descend now. Had just seen target on TCASII before warning. Was in a left turn to 280 degrees per ATC -- started descent and advised ATC. Controller said oh, yes, there he is, turn right 10 degrees. We did that and saw traffic visually at 9500 ft and several mi from us. Had we not gotten RA, we would have lost separation. No other problems. Returned to 280 degree course per ATC, and remainder of flight was uneventful. Supplemental 579830: on departure during climb out, we were on a 320 degree heading (I believe), and cleared to climb to an altitude above 10000 ft. We were then issued the following clearance: 'turn left heading 280 degrees join thndr transition.' as I turned the aircraft through a heading of about 300 degrees and an altitude of about 8800 ft, we got a TA from TCASII. A target was to the left of us 500 ft above us. I immediately rolled out of the turn. At the same time, the TA turned into a RA. The vertical speed indicated a commanded descent of about 2000 FPM down (was hard to read with the sun shining on the pfd). I rolled the aircraft to the right while simultaneously lowering the nose from about 10 degrees up to adhere to the RA. As the nose went down, the airspeed went up (FMA was still 'thrust climb, open climb'), and I then brought the throttles to idle to disengage the autothrottles and get the speed under control. Maximum speed was about 265 KTS within seconds we got the 'clear of conflict' and after we cleared the situation with ATC, we turned back to a 280 degree heading and joined the transition. It was clear that ATC had not seen the VFR target prior to us pointing it out.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 CREW CLBING OUT FROM FLL TAKE EVASIVE ACTION AFTER RECEIVING A TCASII RA TO DSND. INTRUDER ACFT SPOTTED AT 9500 FT WITH ATC HELP.
Narrative: AT 8800 FT CLBING TO 15000 FT, GOT TCASII RA TO DSND, DSND NOW. HAD JUST SEEN TARGET ON TCASII BEFORE WARNING. WAS IN A L TURN TO 280 DEGS PER ATC -- STARTED DSCNT AND ADVISED ATC. CTLR SAID OH, YES, THERE HE IS, TURN R 10 DEGS. WE DID THAT AND SAW TFC VISUALLY AT 9500 FT AND SEVERAL MI FROM US. HAD WE NOT GOTTEN RA, WE WOULD HAVE LOST SEPARATION. NO OTHER PROBS. RETURNED TO 280 DEG COURSE PER ATC, AND REMAINDER OF FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. SUPPLEMENTAL 579830: ON DEP DURING CLBOUT, WE WERE ON A 320 DEG HDG (I BELIEVE), AND CLRED TO CLB TO AN ALT ABOVE 10000 FT. WE WERE THEN ISSUED THE FOLLOWING CLRNC: 'TURN L HDG 280 DEGS JOIN THNDR TRANSITION.' AS I TURNED THE ACFT THROUGH A HDG OF ABOUT 300 DEGS AND AN ALT OF ABOUT 8800 FT, WE GOT A TA FROM TCASII. A TARGET WAS TO THE L OF US 500 FT ABOVE US. I IMMEDIATELY ROLLED OUT OF THE TURN. AT THE SAME TIME, THE TA TURNED INTO A RA. THE VERT SPD INDICATED A COMMANDED DSCNT OF ABOUT 2000 FPM DOWN (WAS HARD TO READ WITH THE SUN SHINING ON THE PFD). I ROLLED THE ACFT TO THE R WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY LOWERING THE NOSE FROM ABOUT 10 DEGS UP TO ADHERE TO THE RA. AS THE NOSE WENT DOWN, THE AIRSPD WENT UP (FMA WAS STILL 'THRUST CLB, OPEN CLB'), AND I THEN BROUGHT THE THROTTLES TO IDLE TO DISENGAGE THE AUTOTHROTTLES AND GET THE SPD UNDER CTL. MAX SPD WAS ABOUT 265 KTS WITHIN SECONDS WE GOT THE 'CLR OF CONFLICT' AND AFTER WE CLRED THE SIT WITH ATC, WE TURNED BACK TO A 280 DEG HDG AND JOINED THE TRANSITION. IT WAS CLR THAT ATC HAD NOT SEEN THE VFR TARGET PRIOR TO US POINTING IT OUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.