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Attributes | |
ACN | 580340 |
Time | |
Date | 200304 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mco.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 650 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Robinson R44 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 32 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 275 |
ASRS Report | 580340 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure FAA |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | staffing : mco.tracon |
Airspace Structure | special use : dworld.resticted |
Narrative:
Cross country to orlando from tpa entered tfr, hard to define the exact start of disney world to see how far the center extend from exact which point. I called orlando approach from guides, but when they answered after my third call I had already entered tfr inadvertently. In a helicopter with no navaids it can be hard from 500 ft AGL to see the center of an area covering many square miles as disney world.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: R44 PLT ENTERED DWORLD TFR AIRSPACE BECAUSE HE WAS UNABLE TO DETERMINE THE TFR CONFINES.
Narrative: CROSS COUNTRY TO ORLANDO FROM TPA ENTERED TFR, HARD TO DEFINE THE EXACT START OF DISNEY WORLD TO SEE HOW FAR THE CTR EXTEND FROM EXACT WHICH POINT. I CALLED ORLANDO APCH FROM GUIDES, BUT WHEN THEY ANSWERED AFTER MY THIRD CALL I HAD ALREADY ENTERED TFR INADVERTENTLY. IN A HELI WITH NO NAVAIDS IT CAN BE HARD FROM 500 FT AGL TO SEE THE CTR OF AN AREA COVERING MANY SQUARE MILES AS DISNEY WORLD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.