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Attributes | |
ACN | 580725 |
Time | |
Date | 200305 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lft.airport |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lft.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 580725 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At XA18Z we received ASOS and it reported tower closed. After start-up, we announced -- tower/CTAF that we were going to taxi from the terminal to right for departure. We made 2 calls before leaving the ramp, while taxiing out, we crossed runway 4L and hold short of runway 4R while an aircraft was landing on runway 22L. After that aircraft landing, we again announced that we were going to back taxi runway 22L to departure on runway 4R. Tower then asked us if we talked to ground prior to taxi. We said no, that we thought the tower was closed. He informed us the tower opened at XA30Z. We apologized to him, and told tower that we made 2 calls before leaving the ramp. Tower said he did not hear us at all. Tower then gave us our IFR clearance and cleared us to back taxi down runway 22L/4R. The flight continued to mej without incident. Thinking back on the situation, the first mistake was not noting what time the tower opened on ASOS. I am not sure why tower did not hear our xmissions. He may have been working multiple frequencys. I am not sure, but had he heard us, this situation would had been avoided. We had also been on a continuous duty overnight, and had only about 4 hours at the hotel that night. I am sure that contributed a little to this situation also. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. I almost forgot -- we left the gate only 8 mins after tower opened up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB120 FLT CREW HAS RWY INCURSION AT LFT.
Narrative: AT XA18Z WE RECEIVED ASOS AND IT RPTED TWR CLOSED. AFTER START-UP, WE ANNOUNCED -- TWR/CTAF THAT WE WERE GOING TO TAXI FROM THE TERMINAL TO R FOR DEP. WE MADE 2 CALLS BEFORE LEAVING THE RAMP, WHILE TAXIING OUT, WE CROSSED RWY 4L AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4R WHILE AN ACFT WAS LANDING ON RWY 22L. AFTER THAT ACFT LNDG, WE AGAIN ANNOUNCED THAT WE WERE GOING TO BACK TAXI RWY 22L TO DEP ON RWY 4R. TWR THEN ASKED US IF WE TALKED TO GND PRIOR TO TAXI. WE SAID NO, THAT WE THOUGHT THE TWR WAS CLOSED. HE INFORMED US THE TWR OPENED AT XA30Z. WE APOLOGIZED TO HIM, AND TOLD TWR THAT WE MADE 2 CALLS BEFORE LEAVING THE RAMP. TWR SAID HE DID NOT HEAR US AT ALL. TWR THEN GAVE US OUR IFR CLRNC AND CLRED US TO BACK TAXI DOWN RWY 22L/4R. THE FLT CONTINUED TO MEJ WITHOUT INCIDENT. THINKING BACK ON THE SIT, THE FIRST MISTAKE WAS NOT NOTING WHAT TIME THE TWR OPENED ON ASOS. I AM NOT SURE WHY TWR DID NOT HEAR OUR XMISSIONS. HE MAY HAVE BEEN WORKING MULTIPLE FREQS. I AM NOT SURE, BUT HAD HE HEARD US, THIS SIT WOULD HAD BEEN AVOIDED. WE HAD ALSO BEEN ON A CONTINUOUS DUTY OVERNIGHT, AND HAD ONLY ABOUT 4 HRS AT THE HOTEL THAT NIGHT. I AM SURE THAT CONTRIBUTED A LITTLE TO THIS SIT ALSO. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME. I ALMOST FORGOT -- WE LEFT THE GATE ONLY 8 MINS AFTER TWR OPENED UP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.