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Attributes | |
ACN | 581363 |
Time | |
Date | 200305 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 19600 msl bound upper : 20000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : mmex.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : arrivals transition rwy 5l |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 9880 flight time type : 2900 |
ASRS Report | 581363 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending into mexico city, we received a clearance to cross 10 NM north of positive control area at FL200. Once I saw we were easily going to make the restr, I made an arrival announcement on the PA system. When I finished, mexico center called us to 'maintain FL200 and contact mexico approach.' I noticed we were about 300-400 ft low. The captain had selected 30.32 inches in his altimeter and failed to return it to standard (29.92 inches). We began climbing, but approach cleared us immediately down to 16000 ft. No conflict was noted with other aircraft, nor did ATC comment further. I have noticed this behavior before. (Pre-selecting an altimeter setting and then failing to reset it to 29.92). I have done it myself in the past. With the new electronic-type altimeter, we can preset the altimeter and then push the button to return to standard. With older altimeters, this was not an option, and hence, not a problem. Maybe the 'standard' setting should not be available, forcing us to dial in 29.92, or the local setting.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 CREW SET QNH BEFORE THE TRANSITION ALT ON DSCNT TO MMEX.
Narrative: DSNDING INTO MEXICO CITY, WE RECEIVED A CLRNC TO CROSS 10 NM N OF PCA AT FL200. ONCE I SAW WE WERE EASILY GOING TO MAKE THE RESTR, I MADE AN ARR ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE PA SYS. WHEN I FINISHED, MEXICO CTR CALLED US TO 'MAINTAIN FL200 AND CONTACT MEXICO APCH.' I NOTICED WE WERE ABOUT 300-400 FT LOW. THE CAPT HAD SELECTED 30.32 INCHES IN HIS ALTIMETER AND FAILED TO RETURN IT TO STANDARD (29.92 INCHES). WE BEGAN CLBING, BUT APCH CLRED US IMMEDIATELY DOWN TO 16000 FT. NO CONFLICT WAS NOTED WITH OTHER ACFT, NOR DID ATC COMMENT FURTHER. I HAVE NOTICED THIS BEHAVIOR BEFORE. (PRE-SELECTING AN ALTIMETER SETTING AND THEN FAILING TO RESET IT TO 29.92). I HAVE DONE IT MYSELF IN THE PAST. WITH THE NEW ELECTRONIC-TYPE ALTIMETER, WE CAN PRESET THE ALTIMETER AND THEN PUSH THE BUTTON TO RETURN TO STANDARD. WITH OLDER ALTIMETERS, THIS WAS NOT AN OPTION, AND HENCE, NOT A PROB. MAYBE THE 'STANDARD' SETTING SHOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE, FORCING US TO DIAL IN 29.92, OR THE LCL SETTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.