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Attributes | |
ACN | 581967 |
Time | |
Date | 200305 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 210 Centurion / Turbo Centurion 210C, 210D |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 1800 flight time type : 650 |
ASRS Report | 581967 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was on an IFR flight plan from flg to smo. Approaching eed VOR, the controller asked if I had received the altimeter setting of 29.62 for needles. I replied 'negative.' when I checked onto the frequency, I had not been given a new altimeter setting. My altimeter remained set at 30.12, unchanged from my departure at flagstaff. When I put in the new setting, it changed my indicated altitude by about 500 ft. I corrected my altitude. Because the change was so large, I called the controller back and suggested that he and other aircraft should be aware of the extreme change in WX system in a short distance. He replied that he thought I had read back the new setting when I came on, but allowed that it might have been someone else. I stressed that I had not been given the setting. My practice is to adjust the altimeter dial, as I read back a setting. I don't believe the setting was issued or that I read it back. I noticed in 27 hours of IFR flying between ca and fl last week, that controllers mention the altimeter setting during handoffs about 50% of the time. More consistency would be useful. I suppose in the future, I will ask 100% of the time when I change frequencys.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C210 ENRTE FROM FLG TO SMO FAILS TO RECEIVE UPDATED ALTIMETER INFO FROM ZLA AFTER FREQ CHANGE.
Narrative: I WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN FROM FLG TO SMO. APCHING EED VOR, THE CTLR ASKED IF I HAD RECEIVED THE ALTIMETER SETTING OF 29.62 FOR NEEDLES. I REPLIED 'NEGATIVE.' WHEN I CHKED ONTO THE FREQ, I HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN A NEW ALTIMETER SETTING. MY ALTIMETER REMAINED SET AT 30.12, UNCHANGED FROM MY DEP AT FLAGSTAFF. WHEN I PUT IN THE NEW SETTING, IT CHANGED MY INDICATED ALTITUDE BY ABOUT 500 FT. I CORRECTED MY ALT. BECAUSE THE CHANGE WAS SO LARGE, I CALLED THE CTLR BACK AND SUGGESTED THAT HE AND OTHER ACFT SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE EXTREME CHANGE IN WX SYS IN A SHORT DISTANCE. HE REPLIED THAT HE THOUGHT I HAD READ BACK THE NEW SETTING WHEN I CAME ON, BUT ALLOWED THAT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMEONE ELSE. I STRESSED THAT I HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN THE SETTING. MY PRACTICE IS TO ADJUST THE ALTIMETER DIAL, AS I READ BACK A SETTING. I DON'T BELIEVE THE SETTING WAS ISSUED OR THAT I READ IT BACK. I NOTICED IN 27 HRS OF IFR FLYING BTWN CA AND FL LAST WK, THAT CTLRS MENTION THE ALTIMETER SETTING DURING HDOFS ABOUT 50% OF THE TIME. MORE CONSISTENCY WOULD BE USEFUL. I SUPPOSE IN THE FUTURE, I WILL ASK 100% OF THE TIME WHEN I CHANGE FREQS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.