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A multiengine candidate, flying with an FAA examiner, took evasive action to avoid a jet descending when departing the pattern at sgs.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 582231 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200305 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : hef.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole Turbo Seminole |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : stp.tower |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 347 flight time type : 46 |
| ASRS Report | 582231 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
During a multiengine instructor flight test, I departed runway 34 at south st paul (sgs). After making a left crosswind departure over the field, I climbed to 2000 ft MSL. This was to avoid the floor of class B. Heading eastbound at 2000 ft, just before the mississippi river, the examiner and I noticed a jet descending below us. We took evasive action, climbing to the right. The jet was on a visual approach into st paul downtown (stp). We were close to sgs and were on CTAF. The other pilot was on the tower frequency at stp. These airports are only 5 NM apart. Sgs is not in class D. The jet was northbound landing at st paul downtown.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A MULTIENGINE CANDIDATE, FLYING WITH AN FAA EXAMINER, TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID A JET DSNDING WHEN DEPARTING THE PATTERN AT SGS.
Narrative: DURING A MULTIENGINE INSTRUCTOR FLT TEST, I DEPARTED RWY 34 AT S ST PAUL (SGS). AFTER MAKING A L XWIND DEP OVER THE FIELD, I CLBED TO 2000 FT MSL. THIS WAS TO AVOID THE FLOOR OF CLASS B. HEADING EBOUND AT 2000 FT, JUST BEFORE THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER, THE EXAMINER AND I NOTICED A JET DSNDING BELOW US. WE TOOK EVASIVE ACTION, CLBING TO THE R. THE JET WAS ON A VISUAL APCH INTO ST PAUL DOWNTOWN (STP). WE WERE CLOSE TO SGS AND WERE ON CTAF. THE OTHER PLT WAS ON THE TWR FREQ AT STP. THESE ARPTS ARE ONLY 5 NM APART. SGS IS NOT IN CLASS D. THE JET WAS NBOUND LNDG AT ST PAUL DOWNTOWN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.