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Attributes | |
ACN | 583264 |
Time | |
Date | 200305 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hef.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 340 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 583264 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : rejected takeoff |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
A primary student and I had just finished our run-up and pre-takeoff checks, and had taxied up to and were holding short of runway 34L at manassas. We had just switched from the ground frequency to the tower frequency, and heard 'cherokee (our call sign), no reported traffic inbound, wind calm, cleared for takeoff, runway 34L.' it is slightly unusual for the tower to clear airplanes for takeoff that have not made a radio call indicating that they are ready for takeoff, but the tower has been known to give those clrncs, anticipating the radio call from the airplane. The student looked at me and said he hadn't heard the radio call from tower. I had him acknowledge that we were cleared for takeoff on runway 34L and made sure he used our call sign. As we began our takeoff roll, probably 3-5 seconds after adding power, tower said 'cherokee (our call sign), is that you rolling on the runway?' I replied 'affirmative, tower,' tower then said 'cherokee (our call sign), I hadn't cleared you for takeoff yet.' I immediately had the student reduce power to idle and we aborted the takeoff. We exited runway 34L at the next taxiway, and I said 'manassas tower, cherokee (our call sign), we understood that we had been cleared for takeoff, we apologize if we understood incorrectly.' I had the student ask tower for a clearance to taxi back to runway 34L, and tower told us to taxi runway 34L. Looking back, I should have had the student ask the tower to repeat our takeoff clearance, so that he could hear it for himself. That also would have reinforced it for me. I was sure I heard our call sign in conjunction with cleared for takeoff, runway 34L, but because we were the first airplane in position and the only one capable of taking off on runway 34L at that moment, I might have been expecting to hear our takeoff clearance and misheard the call sign. It is also possible that the tower controller meant to clear an airplane behind us for takeoff, and did not realize that we were the first aircraft in position. Further, when we read back our takeoff clearance, the tower did not catch our error, if we in fact made an error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CFI INSTRUCTED HIS STUDENT TO DEPART ON RWY 34L AT HEF, EVEN THOUGH THE STUDENT HEARD NO SUCH INSTRUCTION FROM TWR.
Narrative: A PRIMARY STUDENT AND I HAD JUST FINISHED OUR RUN-UP AND PRE-TKOF CHKS, AND HAD TAXIED UP TO AND WERE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 34L AT MANASSAS. WE HAD JUST SWITCHED FROM THE GND FREQ TO THE TWR FREQ, AND HEARD 'CHEROKEE (OUR CALL SIGN), NO RPTED TFC INBOUND, WIND CALM, CLRED FOR TKOF, RWY 34L.' IT IS SLIGHTLY UNUSUAL FOR THE TWR TO CLR AIRPLANES FOR TKOF THAT HAVE NOT MADE A RADIO CALL INDICATING THAT THEY ARE READY FOR TKOF, BUT THE TWR HAS BEEN KNOWN TO GIVE THOSE CLRNCS, ANTICIPATING THE RADIO CALL FROM THE AIRPLANE. THE STUDENT LOOKED AT ME AND SAID HE HADN'T HEARD THE RADIO CALL FROM TWR. I HAD HIM ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 34L AND MADE SURE HE USED OUR CALL SIGN. AS WE BEGAN OUR TKOF ROLL, PROBABLY 3-5 SECONDS AFTER ADDING PWR, TWR SAID 'CHEROKEE (OUR CALL SIGN), IS THAT YOU ROLLING ON THE RWY?' I REPLIED 'AFFIRMATIVE, TWR,' TWR THEN SAID 'CHEROKEE (OUR CALL SIGN), I HADN'T CLRED YOU FOR TKOF YET.' I IMMEDIATELY HAD THE STUDENT REDUCE PWR TO IDLE AND WE ABORTED THE TKOF. WE EXITED RWY 34L AT THE NEXT TXWY, AND I SAID 'MANASSAS TWR, CHEROKEE (OUR CALL SIGN), WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR TKOF, WE APOLOGIZE IF WE UNDERSTOOD INCORRECTLY.' I HAD THE STUDENT ASK TWR FOR A CLRNC TO TAXI BACK TO RWY 34L, AND TWR TOLD US TO TAXI RWY 34L. LOOKING BACK, I SHOULD HAVE HAD THE STUDENT ASK THE TWR TO REPEAT OUR TKOF CLRNC, SO THAT HE COULD HEAR IT FOR HIMSELF. THAT ALSO WOULD HAVE REINFORCED IT FOR ME. I WAS SURE I HEARD OUR CALL SIGN IN CONJUNCTION WITH CLRED FOR TKOF, RWY 34L, BUT BECAUSE WE WERE THE FIRST AIRPLANE IN POS AND THE ONLY ONE CAPABLE OF TAKING OFF ON RWY 34L AT THAT MOMENT, I MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXPECTING TO HEAR OUR TKOF CLRNC AND MISHEARD THE CALL SIGN. IT IS ALSO POSSIBLE THAT THE TWR CTLR MEANT TO CLR AN AIRPLANE BEHIND US FOR TKOF, AND DID NOT REALIZE THAT WE WERE THE FIRST ACFT IN POS. FURTHER, WHEN WE READ BACK OUR TKOF CLRNC, THE TWR DID NOT CATCH OUR ERROR, IF WE IN FACT MADE AN ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.