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Attributes | |
ACN | 583308 |
Time | |
Date | 200306 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cmh.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Fog |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cmh.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | PA-31 Navajo Chieftan/Mojave/Navajo T1020 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 2250 flight time type : 60 |
ASRS Report | 583308 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This evening's ATIS wasn't available until less than 60 NM out from the airport and I even switched radios to find the same occurrence on both. Last ATIS for cmh said 1/2 SM as expected, 2400 ft RVR was required. Last call over the radio was 2600 ft RVR. 60 NM from the airport, or about 20 mins out, I began approach review. It was close to the top of the hour and I knew the ATIS would be changing but I was already in approach phase of flight. Since I hadn't heard company on my second radio since checking ATIS, I started investigating and found the microphone stuck on, which had been reported also by approach controller. My route took me from buf direct to cmh on about a 240 degree heading which sets me up for runway 28R which doesn't have RVR, so everyone was landing runway 28L which does. There were some headings and intercepts given for runway 28L, once, then brought back across to re-intercept and descend to 2700 ft the altitude for the approach before GS intercept then told to contact tower. On rollout from the intercept I was 1 mi prior to FAF, approach flaps were extended which still catches me with a slight climb where I caught the GS then contacted tower. Tower announced 'clear to land with RVR 2000 ft.' I had to think for a second, that 2400 ft was required but I was already at the FAF descending for the airport. This is acceptable and continued with lighting in sight then airport thereafter, more than 1/2 the runway was visible throughout the landing as I could see past cz exit 1/2 way down the 10250 ft runway before touchdown. My concern, and why I submitted this report, is that I might have missed a call for below minimums RVR before landing from the approach controller. I also have concern that I may have received a below minimums RVR call without noting it prior to FAF. I did know that ATIS had been changed. I wasn't able to discern the information through the loud static. I ended up turning down the second radio as I had missed a call from ATC already. A major error was spending time on a second radio trying to pick up ATIS during a critical phase of flight. I should have simply asked.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CARGO PLT IS CONCERNED THAT HE MAY HAVE MADE AN APCH AND LNDG WHILE CMH WAS BELOW MINIMUMS.
Narrative: THIS EVENING'S ATIS WASN'T AVAILABLE UNTIL LESS THAN 60 NM OUT FROM THE ARPT AND I EVEN SWITCHED RADIOS TO FIND THE SAME OCCURRENCE ON BOTH. LAST ATIS FOR CMH SAID 1/2 SM AS EXPECTED, 2400 FT RVR WAS REQUIRED. LAST CALL OVER THE RADIO WAS 2600 FT RVR. 60 NM FROM THE ARPT, OR ABOUT 20 MINS OUT, I BEGAN APCH REVIEW. IT WAS CLOSE TO THE TOP OF THE HR AND I KNEW THE ATIS WOULD BE CHANGING BUT I WAS ALREADY IN APCH PHASE OF FLT. SINCE I HADN'T HEARD COMPANY ON MY SECOND RADIO SINCE CHKING ATIS, I STARTED INVESTIGATING AND FOUND THE MIKE STUCK ON, WHICH HAD BEEN RPTED ALSO BY APCH CTLR. MY RTE TOOK ME FROM BUF DIRECT TO CMH ON ABOUT A 240 DEG HDG WHICH SETS ME UP FOR RWY 28R WHICH DOESN'T HAVE RVR, SO EVERYONE WAS LNDG RWY 28L WHICH DOES. THERE WERE SOME HEADINGS AND INTERCEPTS GIVEN FOR RWY 28L, ONCE, THEN BROUGHT BACK ACROSS TO RE-INTERCEPT AND DSND TO 2700 FT THE ALT FOR THE APCH BEFORE GS INTERCEPT THEN TOLD TO CONTACT TWR. ON ROLLOUT FROM THE INTERCEPT I WAS 1 MI PRIOR TO FAF, APCH FLAPS WERE EXTENDED WHICH STILL CATCHES ME WITH A SLIGHT CLB WHERE I CAUGHT THE GS THEN CONTACTED TWR. TWR ANNOUNCED 'CLR TO LAND WITH RVR 2000 FT.' I HAD TO THINK FOR A SECOND, THAT 2400 FT WAS REQUIRED BUT I WAS ALREADY AT THE FAF DSNDING FOR THE ARPT. THIS IS ACCEPTABLE AND CONTINUED WITH LIGHTING IN SIGHT THEN ARPT THEREAFTER, MORE THAN 1/2 THE RWY WAS VISIBLE THROUGHOUT THE LNDG AS I COULD SEE PAST CZ EXIT 1/2 WAY DOWN THE 10250 FT RWY BEFORE TOUCHDOWN. MY CONCERN, AND WHY I SUBMITTED THIS RPT, IS THAT I MIGHT HAVE MISSED A CALL FOR BELOW MINIMUMS RVR BEFORE LNDG FROM THE APCH CTLR. I ALSO HAVE CONCERN THAT I MAY HAVE RECEIVED A BELOW MINIMUMS RVR CALL WITHOUT NOTING IT PRIOR TO FAF. I DID KNOW THAT ATIS HAD BEEN CHANGED. I WASN'T ABLE TO DISCERN THE INFO THROUGH THE LOUD STATIC. I ENDED UP TURNING DOWN THE SECOND RADIO AS I HAD MISSED A CALL FROM ATC ALREADY. A MAJOR ERROR WAS SPENDING TIME ON A SECOND RADIO TRYING TO PICK UP ATIS DURING A CRITICAL PHASE OF FLT. I SHOULD HAVE SIMPLY ASKED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.